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re: Ochsner to layoff 2% of its workforce today

Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:25 am to
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:25 am to
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They still are offering nurses huge sign on bonuses.
Yes they are but those bonuses are still well below competition along with pay.

They’ll be another thread in a few months bitching when Ochsner starts offering more money and bigger bonuses for nurses after laying off workers who held positions that weren’t needed.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26559 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:28 am to
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my wife was 1 of 770, super fun way to start the day.


What was her position? Just curious on what positions they're laying off..
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24997 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:28 am to
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I just changed doctors to get out of the oschner system


It’s really a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation with Ochsner.

From a healthcare perspective, they are fantastic. I, and many others I know, have had great experiences on the patient side.

Now, administratively it’s an entirely different story. The new system CEO inherited a mess from Warner Thomas, who was a true piece of shite. I know workers who’ve been screwed, and other organizations in service contracts with Ochsner who have to fight tooth and nail to get them to pay money owed…to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. IMO, a lot in the C suite there should have been the first to go.

I hate the layoffs because I’m sure the ones who are waking up to a layoff aren’t the ones responsible for Ochsner’s administrative mess.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1456 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:30 am to
Ochsner sucks and people should be worried with the conglomerate it is becoming.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:30 am to
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Our second child was born 2 weeks ago
'Grats on da sex
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:30 am to
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these people weren’t hired into newly created positions because of Covid

Then why were they handing out signing bonuses during covid outbidding OLOL and BRG for staff? Granted that was for front line providers, but the admin bloat was there way before covid. The pandemic made it all feel necessary for a brief moment. Now that the Feds are wanting to claw back unspent covid payments/grants, all my hospital clients are either cutting overhead or dumping money into land, facilities, or new infrastructure. I understand there are some raw nerves this morning, I've just seen how the sausage gets made at the Big O for too long.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:33 am to
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the admin bloat was there way before covid.
That’s what I said. The Covid money was to increase front line people. They’re still offering bonuses for new nurses. It’s not the issue here. Again, more than anything else combined, it’s inflation.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28394 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:34 am to
Yikes
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:34 am to
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Only other company layoff I have been a part of most people got 6 months


I have been on both sides of hundreds of layoffs and all anyone I ever laid off or all I ever got when being laid off as my the last paycheck. Sometimes it'd be 2 if pay day hadn't passed yet...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95182 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:35 am to
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Then why were they handing out signing bonuses during covid outbidding OLOL and BRG for staff? Granted that was for front line providers, but the admin bloat was there way before covid
So again, tell us how this is from adding jobs during covid….
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95182 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:36 am to
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It’s really a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation with Ochsner
correct. It’s 28,000 employees

You have some great people and departments, and some bad ones. They are the size of a small city so that’s kinda what you would expect
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20113 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:36 am to
My wife works for them too. She didn’t get an invite to a 9:00 meeting so I guess she is good ….. for now. Wonder if there will be a second round of cuts down the road
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by bayoucat0612
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
142 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:37 am to
project manager
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95182 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:40 am to
This boils down to a shite ton of reasons, but the three main ones are below

1. Boomer population again from private insurance (where healthcare makes its nut) to Medicare. That’s a huge bottom line shrunken there. Every hospital in America is worried about this

2. Louisiana has a growing population of Medicaid, while our private insurance patients move out of state/market.

3. Cost of goods and supplies are soaring
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35319 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:42 am to
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Just releasing some dead weight clotting up the system



If that's the goal they should probably cut closer to 20% than 2%.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95182 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:42 am to
Every single company over 1,000 employees could stand to cut at minimum 10% of its employees
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4341 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:45 am to
Glad I got out of there. Could have been me
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3389 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:45 am to
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The new system CEO inherited a mess from Warner Thomas


Exactly. Warner Thomas got out before it became apparent to everyone what a mess the system was in. He left for California before he had to make the difficult decisions.

This is caused by a couple things. Mostly it’s cost of employees. To be specific, the travel nurse phenomenon caused by Covid policies. The federal government reimbursed hospitals for some of the costs associated with bringing travel nurses in to their hospitals during a time of crisis. While everyone knew that this was a temporary situation, the market adjusted for it and all nurses salaries increased, though not nearly as much. The result is that hospital systems now have a higher cost of providing professional services to their patients.

An additional factor is the same thing that affects all of us when we go to the store. Inflation. Hospital supply chains are a monster, and subject to the same market forces that other goods are. This also drives the cost of services up.

While those factors have increased the cost of doing business considerably, payment from insurers for services have not increased to keep up. There’s your deficit. Hospital systems make money by treating people. That’s their revenue stream (with some random revenue generated by other ways, but it’s driven by patient care and billable codes). So they can’t really cut clinical staff because that’s going to decrease the revenue. They have to look to other areas to cut. So what I suspect we will learn is that some of the cuts are administrative type positions and some of them are the “nice to have for your patients but not required clinically or from a regulatory standpoint.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29243 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:46 am to
As an ochsner doctor I can tell you the fat definitely needs to be trimmed. I have 6 or 7 different administrators over my clinic. No one ever knows whose job is what and nothing ever gets done.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35319 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:49 am to
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Every single company over 1,000 employees could stand to cut at minimum 10% of its employees



Ochsner was bloated af 7 years ago. A local company that rapidly became a regional company but there was a ton of middle and upper management that had a local mindset and work ethic.


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