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re: Ochsner to layoff 2% of its workforce today

Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:52 pm to
Is Ochsner still calling the shots on this since the Rush merger? I thought the way that was structured Rush has final say on financial matters?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:59 pm to
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Yup. I was told yesterday they flat out lied when they said no patient-facing employees


I know 2 RN’s who were laid off: 1 had been there 15 years and another for around 3. Both were highly specialized so I’m assuming it had more to do with their salaries than performance
Posted by sonicbaw350
Member since May 2021
392 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:59 pm to
M.D. Anderson partnership should finally be announced next month. Think Ochsner paid over 20 mil for that.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 12:01 am to
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esp since Ochsner is finally losing money.


How is this possible?


Ochsner Health cutting 770 jobs to reverse 2022's 9-figures losses


they've made quite a few bad decisions that they tried to cover with covid money and the chickens are coming home to roost.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 12:02 am
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3600 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:35 am to
So sorry. They also lied when the CEO said no affiliated hospitals would be affected. I’m not sure how they are named Ochsner, but they are not true Ochsner. They were affected. Where my friend works, she said all supervisors/managers were walked out, including hers. A PT Assistant, with patients, who happened to be a “supervisor” as well. Now, there’s no PTA for out patient patients bc she was it! Mind blowing. Unfortunately, new full-time employment isn’t as easy to come by in PT and OT allied health as it is for nursing. They all want to hire part-time or PRN. She said PRN is being cut next. So losing a full time position is devastating in allied health. If one can, PRN in quality in-house rehab center makes bank, just no benefits. 2 days per week pay surpasses one week at Ochsner. But you have to care about your patients and want the best for them and be quality. It’s hard work.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20076 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:59 am to
My wife is an OT, the pay and opportunities out there are fricking atrocious. Houston has a little more opportunities but the pay is just as bad.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:19 am to
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esp since Ochsner is finally losing money. How is this possible? Ochsner Health cutting 770 jobs to reverse 2022's 9-figures losses they've made quite a few bad decisions that they tried to cover with covid money and the chickens are coming home to roost.


Here are the financial drivers:

1. Expense of contract nursing labor
2. Change in payer mix from commercial to Medicaid and Medicare due to shitty business environment

That’s it in a nutshell.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3600 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:24 am to
Insurance is ruining it all. PT has it a little better than OT, though. My friend is an OTA, loves the therapy end and her patients. And she’s good at it. What’s kept her from going full OT (has BS and then the 2 year COTA degree) is dealing with insurers and paperwork. I told her to talk to some OTs to ask if it’s worth the expense of the masters or doctorate in OT. It doesn’t seem like it is these days. But I guess it’s odd to ask your bosses that to make them think you are leaving. It’s a shame they are ruining everything. Much respect to your wife! I guess she wouldn’t recommend it these days?
Posted by Crescent Connection
Lafayette/Nola
Member since Jun 2008
2206 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:29 am to
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1. Expense of contract nursing labor
Hospitals need to figure out a way to retain nurses, wether it’s through higher pay, retention bonuses, and/or better patient/staff ratios. I want to believe that retaining nurses and preventing a constant turnover is more cost efficient than constantly hiring agency nurses and new staff.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6031 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:36 am to
Such a poor strategy...

They will cut positions, forcing people to work lean/ picking up heavier load, then those people get disgruntle and leave....only then to have to offer large sign-on bonuses to attract new positions.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18845 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:16 am to
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M.D. Anderson partnership should finally be announced next month. Think Ochsner paid over 20 mil for that.


Want to Elaborate on that?
Where did you hear this? Sources?


Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
15708 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:22 am to
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was told yesterday they flat out lied when they said no patient-facing employees


Re-reading the email it appears they actually did not lie. It says primarily non clinical.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3612 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:24 am to
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1. Expense of contract nursing labor Hospitals need to figure out a way to retain nurses, wether it’s through higher pay, retention bonuses, and/or better patient/staff ratios. I want to believe that retaining nurses and preventing a constant turnover is more cost efficient than constantly hiring agency nurses and new staff.


Well since that’s exactly what we are doing, maybe you should go into consulting.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20076 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:49 am to
That is different than the Rush merger though right? That is more of a partnership or really just a way for Ochsner to bum off the MDA name.

The Rush merger was an actual merger with Rush having the final say due to the shite financial state of Ochsner. Only way Rush went through with the deal.

I was surprised it didn't really get discussed more when it happened.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by Crescent Connection
Lafayette/Nola
Member since Jun 2008
2206 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:00 am to
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Well since that’s exactly what we are doing, maybe you should go into consulting.
Lol, what is your management position at Ochsner?

RNs have been leaving Oschner LGMC in large numbers because their patient-to-nurse ratio is unsafe and work environment just flat out sucks. Fixing that will go a LONG way. But they refuse to listen.

Same thing at Ochsner main campus. Friend sat in on a meeting with some big wigs months ago, and a lot of them expressed better ratios will help with retention. Apparently, it fell on deaf ears. Surprising. That’s the problem with hospital administration…they don’t listen to the people on the frontlines involved with direct patient care.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5110 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:03 am to
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1. Expense of contract nursing labor


This also caused a domino effect on direct-employed nurses. When they found out the SNAP and travel nurses were making $90-100/hr, compared to their $30-40, the health care systems had to either increase their hourly pay to shut them up, or pay out huge retention bonuses.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1196 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:05 am to
The deal with MD Anderson is a limited partnership specifically for chemo and infusion services.

Rush was originally a partnership like with STPH or SMH, but is now a full-blown merger, with Ochsner calling the shots.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20076 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:07 am to
Ahh, okay, I had it flipped.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5110 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:18 am to
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So the rumor that they really just fired non-patient care positions is false.


If a so-called management level supervisor was let go, then that person likely has some degree of direct patient care involvement. A nursing unit supervisor in most cases is a glorified charge nurse.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3600 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:33 am to
It’s just what I was told.
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