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re: Occidental, Weyerhaeuser to pump air emissions into the ground in Livingston Parish

Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Learn more about this practical and scalable CO2 storage option, which traps captured CO2 more than a mile underground.


https://www.1pointfive.com/sequestration



Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62273 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Once pumped into the ground, it will be stored there for centuries, making development on the surface unlikely if not impossible.


Perhaps you don’t know this, or simply forgot to mention it….but CO2 is found under the ground in the first place. It is produced from wells similar to gas wells. The city of Jackson, MS sits atop a large CO2 field formed many millions of years ago. Just as is the case with any oil or gas field, there is no reason that a carbon dioxide field should have any restriction on surface development.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41331 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:00 pm to
Dumb as frick. Let’s spend millions pumping co2 into the dirt because “scientists” and liberals have convinced everyone it’s bad

While China and every other jack and Jill country on this earth builds coal plants and does whatever the frick they want
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3411 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:03 pm to
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Dumb as frick. Let’s spend millions pumping co2 into the dirt because “scientists” and liberals have convinced everyone it’s bad



This.

And you know damn well by the time Louisiana figures out how to build a loop around Baton Rouge, they won't be allowed to use this land.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82211 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:03 pm to
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So, just a giant pocket of concentrated CO2 in a formation underground?
At 7000 ft below ground, the pressure is so great that the gaseous CO2 is converted to liquid and remains a liquid forever.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8446 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:03 pm to
Don’t know the specifics, but these formations are likely thousands of feet below the surface and the CO2 with be physically / chemically bound with the minerals and strata.

It may be energy inefficient and whatnot but it’s not going to do anything to prevent development of the surface lands.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3411 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:04 pm to
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At 7000 ft below ground, the pressure is so great that the gaseous CO2 is converted to liquid and remains a liquid forever.



Like a wet fart waiting to happen.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:06 pm to
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it's going to be used for storing pollutants and harvesting pine.

It’s storing CO2 where it used to be before we mined it - underground. It’s only a pollutant if the CO2 is in gaseous form and in the atmosphere. It will be neither, and is therefore not a pollutant.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:09 pm to
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So......save the planet by destroying the earth? Makes sense.

We found a dozen idiots - you and the 11 who upvoted your erroneous post. The CO2 is innocuous if it is not in the atmosphere. We are storing it underground, which is natural. We are doing no damage to the earth.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3411 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:09 pm to
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t’s only a pollutant because the government says so


FIFY
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:09 pm to
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TL:DR - Baton Rouge is about to accidentally get a suburban growth boundary in Livingston Parish. But instead of it being a nature preserve or giant park, it's going to be used for storing pollutants and harvesting pine.


Why would this make the land not suitable for development? I lived in a area in TX where thousands of homes were built on top of underground Butane storage facility.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:11 pm to
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This is going to be done elsewhere in LA. But it’s not on developable land, just marsh land

Nope. It will be under marsh, under lakes, under residential communities and under farms and timber.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3411 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:12 pm to
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We are doing no damage to the earth


The march towards carbon neutrality knows no logic. And it is definitely a slippery slope.

Pump it into the ground today. And next year it's considered toxic waste by some activist politician and you have to pay fines.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Mix up the emissions with the natural methane. What could go wrong?

You tell me. The CO2 came from methane, so what is the harm of mixing them?

Let’s have a 101 course here.

1. We mine natural gas and oil from reservoirs under ground.
2. We burn the natural gas and oil, releasing the CO2 that was part of the hydrocarbon molecule. CO2 is a byproduct from other processes, but to keep this simple…
3. We used to just release the CO2 into the air, but since we strongly suspect it is causing some incremental global warming, we will now capture the CO2 and pump it back underground where it came from.
4. Underground the CO2 will be in the dense phase (liquid). Even if it flashes it will eventually go to liquid just the way your soda can eventually goes flat.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Yeah this makes no sense to begin with, especially when they are permanently consuming land that Louisiana will need to house people.

Nope. This thread is a classic case of people who know next to nothing popping off at the mouth. The reason we are choosing sites that no one lives on is because we don’t have the time to negotiate with a bunch of landowners. The easy button is to get state owned land, like a wildlife preserve. We will soon run out of those, however, and then we will be storing under subdivisions and farms.

You guys need to stop fighting this; it is eminently logical. We should be doing this. The question is: How much should we subsidize it?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Pump it into the ground today. And next year it's considered toxic waste by some activist politician and you have to pay fines.

Close. They are going to subsidize it for about a dozen years, or so, then declare the CO2 emissions either illegal or subject to fines.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7724 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:26 pm to
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Once pumped into the ground, it will be stored there for centuries, making development on the surface unlikely if not impossible.
I've done a shitton of natural gas environmental work. I can't imagine why it would make development on the surface unlikely if not impossible.

I'd love to hear the explanation.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4607 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Let’s spend millions
Are you a shareholder?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:37 pm to
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If it actually does eliminate the possibility of developing that land in the future

It doesn’t. Can we quit just making up bogeymen? There is nothing wrong with storing CO2 underground, as long as the reservoirs are well chosen and wells are properly drilled and completed. Of course there are risks, but these risks are similar to the ones associated with exploration and development of oil and natural gas.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:40 pm to
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They should do this under land far away from metropolitan areas

Why? I’m okay with it being stored a mile under my house, with 6 impermeable shale layers between the CO2 and top of grade.
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