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O-T Mechanic Baws
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:33 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:33 am
I've been told, read about, watched videos......can I get a damn definitive answer on changing transmission fluid or not?
Some say it will create more problems. Some say leave it alone. Some say if it's been done per the suggested maintenance in the manual it's ok (I like that answer). What say you mechanically inclined old baws?
2012 Toyota Corolla with 190K miles. Never changed, fluid is grey/pinkish.....starting to slip a bit.
Some say it will create more problems. Some say leave it alone. Some say if it's been done per the suggested maintenance in the manual it's ok (I like that answer). What say you mechanically inclined old baws?
2012 Toyota Corolla with 190K miles. Never changed, fluid is grey/pinkish.....starting to slip a bit.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:38 am to Shanegolang
If it’s starting to slip, color has deteriorated, 190k miles, never done before…I’d lean towards doing it.
But I’m not a mechanic. I’m just trying to build my post count.
But I’m not a mechanic. I’m just trying to build my post count.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:41 am to LSUMANINVA
Drain change filter and refill.
Don't flush if your over 100k.
I'll shake shite loose you don't want.
If you're on schedule with the service manual then follow that.
Don't flush if your over 100k.
I'll shake shite loose you don't want.
If you're on schedule with the service manual then follow that.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:47 am to thejudge
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Don't flush if your over 100k.
Yep, a change is okay with the correct fluid, but don't flush and don't need any additives.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:48 am to LSUMANINVA
I agree, with that many miles and possible slipping, now might be a good time.
My unprofessional opinion based on owning many high mileage cars is too not changed/flush on a small typical car.
Heat is a transmission'enemy so on a higher powered vehicle that tows, I would changed per schedule.
But that is just an opinion based on experience. Don't think there is a definite answer.
My unprofessional opinion based on owning many high mileage cars is too not changed/flush on a small typical car.
Heat is a transmission'enemy so on a higher powered vehicle that tows, I would changed per schedule.
But that is just an opinion based on experience. Don't think there is a definite answer.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 5:54 am to Shanegolang
I’d drop the pan…change the filter..refill.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:00 am to Shanegolang
Get Toyota ATF and drain replace.. make sure to measure how much came out for refilling. You want to have the correct amount of fluid. Drive around for some miles, You need to do it several times until the fluid looks clean and new. May also want to research adding an additive.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:02 am to Shanegolang
You can try draining the pan and changing the filter:however, the fact that it's starting to slip is bad news. I would typically not change fluid/filter in a high mileage vehicle that has never been serviced but the fact that you're having symptoms I'd say you might go ahead and try it. I think you're going to be getting a transmission in the future.
Good luck with it.
Good luck with it.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:10 am to Shanegolang
If it’s started to slip, it’s probably too late. However, you don’t have much to lose. Everyone up thread is correct. Doing a fluid “exchange” won’t hurt anything, but you don’t want to put any cleaner/detergents in there. What “can” happen is varnish/sludge that may be in some of the internal passages/valve body etc. can be loosened and can move and block something else. Fluid exchange first, if that doesn’t help you have nothing to lose trying a cleaner because it’s probably toast anyway.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 6:10 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:12 am to Shanegolang
Change it, run it 500 miles, change it again. Don't flush.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:20 am to Shanegolang
My experience is that if it slips, it’s over.
I have a Tundra with 375,000 miles on it. Had a shifting problem that I was able to diagnose the problem and fix. It was a solenoid n the transmission.
Changing in oil in those sealed transmissions is complicated.
I have a Tundra with 375,000 miles on it. Had a shifting problem that I was able to diagnose the problem and fix. It was a solenoid n the transmission.
Changing in oil in those sealed transmissions is complicated.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 6:23 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:00 am to Shanegolang
eta: i goofed
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:01 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:37 am to Shanegolang
The grey is metal. Its already fricked.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:40 am to Shanegolang
So the following is a synopsis of much research on the subject.
You should definitely change the transmission fluid! And also a complete flush.
Doing this will likely cause more problems though, due to the detergents breaking up built up deposits.
But I'd certainly advise against changing and flushing the transmission fluid.
Understand though, if you don't do it, you'll shorten the life of the transmission, due to the natural break down of the fluid and water absorption.
You should definitely change the transmission fluid! And also a complete flush.
Doing this will likely cause more problems though, due to the detergents breaking up built up deposits.
But I'd certainly advise against changing and flushing the transmission fluid.
Understand though, if you don't do it, you'll shorten the life of the transmission, due to the natural break down of the fluid and water absorption.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:43 am to Tusksup
Did the 12 Toyota have metal clutch discs or Glass fiber?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:48 am to Shanegolang
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Never changed, fluid is grey/pinkish.....starting to slip a bit.
Wasting your money. If it’s slippin, you are rippin it out. Unless you are lucky and it’s just a clogged filter.
Here is why people say to not bother when it gets too old. You have metal particles and particles from the bands, clutches, etc in the fluid. That has gradually risen the pressure in the trans because of the thicker fluid.
All of the seals, rubber components, springs, etc have been ran at the higher pressure.
When you change the fluid…. Pressure drops. And automatic trans works on trans fluid pressure.
If you change it routinely, this process doesn’t happen. Plus the metal particles doesn’t wear on the rest of the trans.
You can put some trans fix in to possibly temporarily get the shift back. But you need to be shopping for a trans shop.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:53 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:52 am to Shanegolang
Drain and fill with a new filter and repeat after a few hundred miles. Spray the solenoids out with brake cleaner while you’re in there, the gray friction material could be clogging them up.
Best case: it fixes it
Worst case: you wasted a little time/money because the transmission was on its way out anyway.
Best case: it fixes it
Worst case: you wasted a little time/money because the transmission was on its way out anyway.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:53 am to Jsand43
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Change it, run it 500 miles, change it again. Don't flush.
This is what I would do too.
The issue with changing now is a ph and friction issue. You 100% can have more issues after a change based on the ph shock and less friction from the detergents in the new fluid cleaning the gunk off the parts in the transmission.
Does it smell burnt?
The changing it twice twice will get the gunk that was released out of the system.
I'd drop the pan, change the filters, drive awhile, do it again, and add some Lucas no slip when you fill it the second time.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:54 am to Shanegolang
It needs to be changed (fluid & filter) and the bands in the tranny need adjusting.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:14 am to Shanegolang
I have a 98 Frontier. Changed the transmission fluid and filter religiously about every 50,000 miles. At 150,000 miles it went out with no signs of slipping or hard shifting. Just stopped shifting out of first.
Had a used transmission put in that had 60,000 miles. I haven't changed the fluid or filter ever since and the truck now has about 305,000 miles. The transmission has about 210,000 miles. No issues. I have even done some heavy towing that was probably above the truck's capacity
There's something to the old fluid is best if it isn't burned. I gave up on doing the maintenance by the book. My 2 cents
Had a used transmission put in that had 60,000 miles. I haven't changed the fluid or filter ever since and the truck now has about 305,000 miles. The transmission has about 210,000 miles. No issues. I have even done some heavy towing that was probably above the truck's capacity
There's something to the old fluid is best if it isn't burned. I gave up on doing the maintenance by the book. My 2 cents

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