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re: NYT- Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back.

Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19889 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:20 pm to
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cis heterosexual man


this is the problem right here. these people don't even know what a woman is, or how a woman's role in society is different than a man's.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18559 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Typical female - assumes the guy is the problem and needs to change. Zero introspection or assessment.





Good point. Entire article blaming men.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18559 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Well, conservative women have one thing going for them that liberal women do not.

They are actually women.


And usually have very traditional views in regards to gender roles in marriage.

Not for everyone, but it is for some people.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
9080 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:25 pm to
The legend you are referencing is Kevin Samuels & unfortunately he died about 3 years ago. He was doing God’s work explaining basic common sense to these women.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10486 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:32 pm to
Sure, but let’s get real about the big picture. Young men aren’t exactly thriving right now. Men need to take risks, approach women, and get rewarded for it or develop resilience after rejection. And win on the next one. This hurts men in the long run if they stop doing that altogether.

Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3142 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Young men should focus on building their character and their career.

Become mentally strong.
Become physically fit.
Become spiritually deep.

Then, sit back and pick the one that is doing the same.

Shallow women are exhausting. You cannot make them happy because what they want (to make them happy) is always changing.

Ignore the herd. You are above it.


This is the advice I give my sons. Spot on.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2756 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:49 pm to
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And usually have very traditional views in regards to gender roles in marriage.

Not for everyone, but it is for some people


Yep.

I feel if we went back to tradition, both men and women would find that they are happier. There is a reason why time and time again, when they track happiness levels, more tradional individuals are much happier than those who are not. Is why people who value tradition are also less medicated and more mentally stable.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46110 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Become mentally strong. Become physically fit. Become spiritually deep.

seems like I’ve heard this before somewhere

quote:

Scout Oath: "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight."

Scout Law: "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent."


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111884 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:44 pm to
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How terrible! American women crying at the graveside of what they themselves killed.


The irony is completely lost on most of them.

They need to read some Camille Paglia. She nailed this trend in the 90s.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 3:58 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111884 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:45 pm to
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unfunny El Gaucho


Redundant
Posted by paullentz1972
Member since Jun 2025
4 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:59 pm to
I read this whole article. In 'theory' what this lady lamented about, seems, um, 'reasonable'.

HOWEVER, she left out 'one' word when she said 'Men' where have you gone, please come back: "HOT" Men.....

I keep saying this over and over....the problem for most of these modern day Chad Chasing/Bad Boy Boning females...is that there simply arent enough of 'these guys' to go around for all the females out there who hella crave them some Chad Man Meat/Bad Boy Bone!

A non-Chad/non-Bad Boy can make all the money in the world AND become a workout warrior...YET at the end of the day, all he'll EVER be in the eyes of most women is a non-Chad/non-Bad Boy with money and muscles.....at best, a back-up option, subject to the 56% of marriages that end in divorce (with women initiating 78% of all divorces). The very reason why Rom-Coms are so popular amongst women...is because most women can relate to 'settling' down with a man that they arent naturally sexually attracted to (btw, how do you think that makes MOST men really feel?).
A growing % of men have checked out of the dating scene (I did so back in 2007)....because more and more men are getting hip to the fact that most men ARE NOT what most women want! Why should most men do all it takes to attract a woman....IF most women only want 'that guy'?

Most women rate 80% of men as being 'below a 5'. Most women reject most men....most women totally ignore most men. YET, most women seem to believe that if they can convince most men to keep 'competing' for them...that the men that they really want (Chads/Bad Boy-types) will eventually 'wise up' and start committing and being faithful. TOTAL DE-LU-LU on the part of these modern day Chad Chasing/Bad Boy Boning females! 'These guys' know that they DO NOT have competition. 'They' know that most women crave them some Chad Man Meat/Bad Boy Bone....and that most women will put up with their Red Flags. Knowing this...why would/should ANY of 'these guys' EVER pick 'just one'?

Ladies, by being so freaking PICKY....collectively, you ladies have given 'these guys' all the leverage in The World! 'These guys' know that most of you will continue to put up with 'their shite'! What are you going to do? Revise who makes you 'tingle down there'? You ladies collectively let 'these guys' continue to RUN THROUGH YOU over and over again.....YET women keep thinking that eventually things will change, lol! NOT HAPPENING....especially if you ladies keep being so damn picky when it comes to your PREFERENCES!

And what PREFERENCES are those? 1. a man being at least 6 feet tall (off the bat, that eliminates 87% of men. However, of the 13% of men that are at least 6 feet tall....half of those guys are MARRIED. So now you're down to 6.5% of men who are at least 6 feet tall AND single. However, 10% of those guys are either gay OR in prison. So now you're down to 5.85% of men who are single, straight, free and at least 6 feet tall! And that's not even including the following checkmarks!)....2. have a great smile...3. have broad shoulders...4. have amazing, striking eyes...5. have a strong, pronounced chin....6. have a head full of hair.

And that's not even including...7. is he funny...8. does he have great conversational ability...9. does he make in excess of $100k a year (in excess....significantly in excess).....10. is he great in bed/is he packing 'where it counts' (let's be real...most women crave sex just as much as men do. The problem for most women..is that there simply arent enough Chads/Bad Boy-types to go around for all the women who crave them some Chad Man Meat/Bad Boy Bone).

Now what % of men do you ladies really believe hits most if not all of the above 10 checkmarks? Men do not determine what makes a man a Chad/Bad Boy-type....WOMEN DO! These are the men that most of you ladies will have sex with on the first date/will have situationships with/will have one night stands with/will have friends with benefits with. In addition, most women wont make 'these guys' pay for the first date/wont make 'these men' wait for sex/wont make 'these men' commit or be faithful! Most women will tolerate hella Red Flags from 'these guys' that most of you would NEVER tolerate from most men.

So knowing all of this.....why would any SANE non-Chad/non-Bad Boy type EVER consider putting himself out there in today's dating climate? Most of you ladies have made it crystal clear that most of you have ZERO INTEREST in most men! And more and more of these non-Chads/non-Bad Boy types are finally getting the message! Men like us....we've checked out....and are taking solace in 'going out own way'!

And guess what? We (non-Chads/non-Bad Boys) like being by ourselves! As a result of not chasing after the unobtainable (most women today)....more and more men are discovering that a life with NO drama, NO stress, NO angst, NO arguing, NO conflict in our lives....while coming home to a peaceful home each and every day....is FAN-frickING-TASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our expenses are much lower....we're able to live within our means....and we can save money (if we choose)! In addition, we have plenty of free time to partake in activities that bring us actual pleasure WITHOUT having to explain/justify to some emotional/moody/argumentative/impossible to please female.
How hard is that to understand?

So unless most of you females who ARE NOT a legit '10' in the looks department (contrary to 'popular' belief amongst women today....most women ARE NOT '10's/boss babes/queens', lol)....are willing to be more REALISTIC when it comes to your PREFERENCES (which I'm 99.9999999999999999999999999% sure wont happen), I dont see anything changing anytime soon when it comes to the dissatisfaction that is called modern dating!

Having standards are one things...being DE-LU-LU when it comes to your PREFERENCES is a totally different thing. And if you dont know the difference between a preference AND a standard....I dont know what to say! If you dont know where you realistically rate on a scale of 1-10 physically....I dont know what to say.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:28 pm to
The pendulum is swinging back. I had this discussion with a divorced woman months ago, and I don't really remember how it came about but the question posed was along the lines of if I were looking for a woman what would I look for? The main thing that I would look for is a Christian woman, and that was the most important. I don't know how many other people feel this way, but I have seen videos along these lines enough to know that Im not the only one that thinks this way.

Of note: divorced woman was a co-worker and it was just a conversation, no alterior motives or anything. She's sweet and a Christian, no kids, but even if I were looking, I don't think there would be much interest.
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:20 pm to
Nah, doesn’t interest me. Im old dude. If I wake up breathing i am fine.
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:24 pm to
You hurt my feelings man. ??????
Posted by partyboy1930
Member since Jan 2014
1449 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:35 am to
these young and entitled Bitches don’t read man. They just scroll on their phones and look at posts of other young and entitled bitches.


Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:41 am to
And we have a BINGO!
Posted by Rambler
Coastal Landmass
Member since Jan 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:10 am to
The article author needs to go see a Leonarda Jonie show.

Leonarda show in Houston
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:46 am to
Bumped so Mingo can tell me I am an incel.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34797 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:16 am to
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I’ve never had a problem dating in this climate. Maybe the problem is self inflicted within the men. Look inward



Theres truth to this.

Younger women are gravitating towards older men because the new generation of men are being heavily influenced by the Alpha male/red pill culture that Andrew Tate and his ilk preach.

What the last generation of women brought on themselves, the new generation of men are starting to bring on themselves, and a new generation of women who are embracing more traditional roles are finding it difficult to form relationships with men their age.

Perhaps the older women should get with the younger men and they can play their bullshite games together.

I'll keep my younger girlfriend who likes to do things for me over a "girlboss" closer to my age.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7102 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 11:08 am to
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And guess what? We (non-Chads/non-Bad Boys) like being by ourselves! As a result of not chasing after the unobtainable (most women today)....more and more men are discovering that a life with NO drama, NO stress, NO angst, NO arguing, NO conflict in our lives....while coming home to a peaceful home each and every day....is FAN-frickING-TASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our expenses are much lower....we're able to live within our means....and we can save money (if we choose)! In addition, we have plenty of free time to partake in activities that bring us actual pleasure WITHOUT having to explain/justify to some emotional/moody/argumentative/impossible to please female.
How hard is that to understand?


And guess what? The rational women that you are looking for feel exactly the same as you. Early 60's here and look damn good for my age. I was widowed 11 years ago. I have not even considered dating because I refuse to do stupid online crap. I have a very good job and own my home. I am extremely cautious because there are so many men out there looking for sugar mamas, etc. I had a wonderful 34 year marriage. All I would want now is just someone who wants to have fun. Travel, go to sports events and concerts., dinner, etc. Everybody pays their own way. But the men want someone to take care of them. They want someone to be a sugar mama, a caretaker, a cook and housekeeper. I don't have any desire to be any of those things. I'd much rather be alone and hang with my kids and have fun with my grandson.

Just like you think there's all kinds of crazy and demanding women out there...there's plenty of men that are the same.
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