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NYC Spends $44k per student- test scores still dropping

Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:36 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38022 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:36 pm
LINK

new article from the Post saying NYC spent 44k per MYC public school student and test scores still continue to plummet and enrollment continues to go down


It is almost like throwing money at a situation isnt the solution!
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41041 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:39 pm to
Like most things, we rarely have an amount of spending problem for any of our public services, we have an efficiency of what is spent problem.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138908 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44821 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:42 pm to
I could lower test scores for $34k per student.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74154 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:43 pm to
Public education systems are a massive jobs program for mainly women

Not so much on the teaching side, but on the admin side.

Since the 70s, there has been an explosion in public school admin workforce.

It pains me to say, but a significant chunk of “the middle class miracle” that occurred in America between the end of the 2nd world war and through today, is really just govt makework job schemes.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15646 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:53 pm to
There’s large school districts all over the country that spend an incredible amount of money per student, only to see test scores remain well below the national average.

You generally see a correlation between test scores and school funding in rural, suburban, and smaller districts, but large urban school districts are another matter.

No matter how much money is throw at the problem, test scores remain low because there are larger root problems. It’s a giant waste of money.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38022 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:55 pm to
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because there are larger root problems


you can say it...we are all friends here
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6468 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:58 pm to
Probably not even most of that is being spent on directly enriching student education, probably mostly funding nyc teacher salaries and pension funding.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38333 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:19 pm to
Just a few thousand more

That should do it
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36077 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:35 pm to
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44k per MYC public school student


They clearly need more administrative staff!
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7027 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:42 pm to
AEI summary from 6 years ago


quote:

Between 1970 and 1999 public school enrollment increased by only 2.5%. And yet during that same 30-year period, the number of non-teaching public school staff doubled as did the real cost per public school student.

2. Over the entire 1970-2017 (most recent year available) period, the increase in the number of students attending US public schools increased only 10.4% from 45.9 million to 50.7 million. From 1970 to the mid-1980s, public school enrollment decreased by nearly 6.5 million students (and by 14%) before rebounding by 1997 to the 1970 level of about 46 million students and then increasing steadily to more than 50 million by 2013.

3. In comparison, the number of public school teachers increased by 57.2% between 1970 and 2017 from about 2 million to 3.17 million, which reduced the pupil-to-teacher ratio by 30%, from almost 23-to-1 in 1970 to below 16-to-1 in 2017.

4. Over the same period, the number of non-teaching staff at public schools more than doubled, increasing by 151% from 1.34 million in 1970 to 3.375 million in 2017. Interestingly, while the number of public school teachers was flat between 1996 and 2016, the number of non-teaching staff continued to grow and by 2015 there were more non-teaching staff than teachers for the first time and that gap grew even larger in 2017 (see chart below).

5. As a direct result of public school staff (both teachers and non-teachers) growing so much greater (57% and 157% respectively) than the increase in public school students (10.4%) between 1970 and 2017, the inflation-adjusted cost of educating a student in US public schools increased by 154% between 1970 and 2017, from $5,037 to $12,794.


There’s more there, and some neat graphs I can’t paste, but costs will never decrease in education.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26471 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:48 pm to
In contrast, the Amish schools in PA have Jr high and HS girls teach elementary school, but their students test among the top every year on the state mandated tests.

Posted by Oneforthemoney
A town near you, la
Member since Dec 2013
2507 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:51 pm to
3rd world and sub Saharan descendants will cause that.
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