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NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
NY Times article, so you may or may not be able to see the article.

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And then the brutal killing of George Floyd by police in Minneapolis on May 25 changed everything.

Soon the streets nationwide were full of tens of thousands of people in a mass protest movement that continues to this day, with demonstrations and the toppling of statues. And rather than decrying mass gatherings, more than 1,300 public health officials signed a May 30 letter of support, and many joined the protests.

That reaction, and the contrast with the epidemiologists’ earlier fervent support for the lockdown, gave rise to an uncomfortable question: Was public health advice in a pandemic dependent on whether people approved of the mass gathering in question? To many, the answer seemed to be “yes.”


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"The way the public health narrative around coronavirus has reversed itself overnight seems an awful lot like … politicizing science,” the essayist and journalist Thomas Chatterton Williams wrote in The Guardian last month. “What are we to make of such whiplash-inducing messaging?”

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Catherine Troisi, an infectious disease epidemiologist at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, studies Covid-19. When, wearing a mask and standing at the edge of a great swell of people, she attended a recent protest in Houston supporting Mr. Floyd, a sense of contradiction tugged at her.

“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” she said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”

Mark Lurie, a professor of epidemiology at Brown University, described a similar struggle.

“Instinctively, many of us in public health feel a strong desire to act against accumulated generations of racial injustice,” Professor Lurie said. “But we have to be honest: A few weeks before, we were criticizing protesters for arguing to open up the economy and saying that was dangerous behavior.



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When he was a hospice doctor in Chicago and Boston, he said, he saw up close how isolation deepened the despair of the dying — a fate now suffered by many in the pandemic, with hospital visits severely restricted. For epidemiologists to turn around and argue for loosening the ground rules for the George Floyd marches risks sounding hypocritical.

“We allowed thousands of people to die alone,” he said. “We buried people by Zoom. Now all of a sudden we are saying, never mind?”


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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
Shocked NYT printed that

Racist NYT


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Salmon
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
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Catherine Troisi, an infectious disease epidemiologist at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, studies Covid-19. When, wearing a mask and standing at the edge of a great swell of people, she attended a recent protest in Houston supporting Mr. Floyd, a sense of contradiction tugged at her.

“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” she said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.


I don't. It's simply politics.
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
Blah blah blah we’re hypocrites.


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pwejr88
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NYT = pioneers of 2020


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TH03
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Instinctively, many of us in public health feel a strong desire to act against accumulated generations of racial injustice,” Professor Lurie said. “But we have to be honest: A few weeks before, we were criticizing protesters for arguing to open up the economy and saying that was dangerous behavior.


Covid is woke af


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GetCocky11
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
I'm surprised NYT printed that.


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loosening the ground rules for the George Floyd marches risks sounding hypocritical.

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sounding hypocritical.

It doesn't just sound hypocritical, you slimy bastard, it is the very definition of hypocrisy.


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Porter Osborne Jr
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
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“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” she said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”


You have a hard time articulating why it's OK because it's not you fricking asshat.


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RLDSC FAN
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I'm surprised NYT printed that.


Same. I won't be surprised if this turns into a huge fight, internally.


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SpotCheckBilly
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
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“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” she said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”


I think she meant rationalizing.


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YouAre8Up
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
It took them this fricking long to begin to figure this out?


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geauxtigers87
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
How did this slip through the gestapo of the NY Times?


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LegendInMyMind
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NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?

They certainly are unsafe for the dozens of innocent people killed and the morons who burn themselves alive by "peacefully" burning down liquor stores.

"Protesting" is dangerous, dangerous work.


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Vacherie Saint
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
don't be fooled. Now that the fervor has dies down a bit, and the protests have claimed more black lives than the police, it's time to backtrack to the original narrative that public gatherings are deadly, then begin a renewed push for fraud-laiden mail in voting.


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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
Confronted with their hypocrisy, liberals punt with the satisfaction they're right regardless of their irreconcilable position.


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BottomlandBrew
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
Are the same people that routinely bash the NYT going to believe this? I bet there are a lot of "I don't normally believe what the NYT prints, but I agree with them on this one" responses.

(FTR, I believe protests spread the virus, so I'm leaving that out of my argument).


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NYNolaguy1
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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
I do think the protests helped spread covid, but I find it curious that it spread in some states (Texas, California, a lot of the south) and not others (NY and the northeast).

Why are some areas spiking and not others when there were protests virtually everywhere?
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TH03
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Why are some areas spiking and not others when there were protests virtually everywhere?


I’m fully on pride’s theory that it’s all about which cities already had their big spike. NYC already had it before the protests, Texas cities did not.


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re: NY Times - Are Protests Unsafe?
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“I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”


Two answers.

Either it's not OK, or it was always OK. Which is it?


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