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NPR article “covid could become like common cold”
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:26 pm
LINK The article is from an interview with a guy that works as a “coronavirus researcher at the University of Texas Medical Branch.” The interesting part is the last paragraph. He cites a “common cold” coronavirus named OC43, says that when it first transitioned from cows to humans, it caused “very severe disease,” goes on to say “after a few years, the virus became just the common cold.” Does anyone have any insight on why this would be? If the virus is still here in 2-3 years, why would it become less harmful?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:28 pm to sabes que
I mean that’s what the other ones did. This isn’t exactly breaking news.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:29 pm to sabes que
Isn't it basically that now?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:29 pm to sabes que
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Does anyone have any insight on why this would be? If the virus is still here in 2-3 years, why would it become less harmful?
Spitballing here, but if the purpose of a virus is to infect the greatest number of hosts, then the less serious the symptoms, the more successful it will be. It could gradually mutate in to something that we all get every now and then and suffer few consequences.
I don't know what the frick I'm talking about, though.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:29 pm to St Augustine
Which is very interesting. I am wondering why? I can see how with herd immunity the virus would be less likely to spread, but why would the affects it has on a given individual be less in a few years than it is now?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:31 pm to sabes que
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Does anyone have any insight on why this would be? If the virus is still here in 2-3 years, why would it become less harmful?
I like the idea, have brought it up before in the big thread, and suspect that this is what will happen with SARS-CoV-2, but it is based on some pretty speculative and circumstantial evidence. But the hypothesis is that OC43 jumped from bovines to humans around 1889-1890, which is when there was a decently severe flu pandemic with some "odd" neurological symptoms.
HCoV-OC43 is one of the common cold coronaviruses, and it still manages to kill people, and it sometimes has neurological symptoms with it.
As far as getting less severe, it is of evolutionary benefit to a virus to not kill its host. Therefore, viruses are wont to get less severe as their generations proceed.
Link to paper that discusses (a paragraph or two) that hypothesis.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:31 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
Isn't it basically that now?
Oh lawd you're gonna bring out the Karens for that one.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:32 pm to HempHead
quote:What you said actually makes a lot of sense.
I don’t know what the frick I’m talking about, though
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:32 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
Isn't it basically that now?
Nope
Common cold doesnt kill you by being shot or crashing your vehicle.
But China Virus does. Its super bad.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:34 pm to sabes que
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If the virus is still here in 2-3 years, why would it become less harmful?
Immunity. It doesn’t mutate like flu and colds caused by rhinoviruses so once you’ve gotten a severe enough case to spur IgG production, you basically will always be able to slap it down with it just being able to give you at worst the sniffles for a few days.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:38 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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As far as getting less severe, it is of evolutionary benefit to a virus to not kill its host. Therefore, viruses are wont to get less severe as their generations proceed.
It’s worth meationing this only applies to viruses that are endemic.
Outbreaks associated with contact to the original host reservoir doesn’t have the same pressures.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:41 pm to sabes que
If the host dies, the virus dies. Makes sense it wouldn’t evolve to be more deadly.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:42 pm to Volvagia
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Volvagia
This guy knows what the frick he is talking about. I'll listen to him.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:44 pm to sabes que
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why would it become less harmful?
Viruses become less harmful over time because the less harmful strains continue on. If the virus kills the host it can no longer propagate.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 2:38 pm to sabes que
If everyone would just let Bill Gates implant the chip into your brain your body would automatically recognize invaders and cancerous cells and destroy them before replicating. Much like antivirus software.
Works great for me.
Works great for me.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:05 pm to yatesdog38
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If everyone would just let Bill Gates implant the chip into your brain your body would automatically recognize invaders and cancerous cells and destroy them before replicating. Much like antivirus software.
I’m not impressed. It won’t connect to Spotify and I have to get all my songs through windows music store and it doesn’t have anything released after 2005
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:06 pm to sabes que
quote:Everyone hears about virus mutations and gets scared. If mutations commonly made things stronger, we would have a real-life X-Men.
Does anyone have any insight on why this would be?
Mutations rarely enhance, 99.9999999999999999% of the time it makes things weaker.
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