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re: Not on my bingo card- Racist Bird Names
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:21 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:21 pm to Dr RC
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I mean you can cry about it being a dumbing down but giving an animal variant a more descriptive name still makes a hell of a lot more sense than naming it after some random person who wrote about it first.
10k birds roughly. Good luck
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:23 pm to Dr RC
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The long tailed duck apparently used to be called the oldsquaw. Say the old name and most people wouldn't know what you were talking about. Say long tailed duck and you know right away that it's a duck w/a tail longer than the average duck.
You could do this with any group of animals.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:31 pm to LSUGUMBO
You have to respect the expert historical perspective they're bringing:
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"If you have a bird named for a person who was an avowed white supremacist, who preached the inferiority of Black people and it’s found mainly in the South, if people research the history, they’re going to find it offensive,” he said. One example often cited is the Scott’s oriole, named for Winfield Scott, a military general responsible for the Trail of Tears.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:46 pm to fr33manator
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So they are digging through a bunch of old dead guys lives and if they did anything against THEIR modern stupid sensibilities, (and of COURSE they will) they will actively work to erase them from history.
That's why they're doing this
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Although the project was initiated in part "to address past wrongs" over links to historical figures known for their support of slavery or genocide of Indigenous peoples, the Society plans to remove all honorific human names. A committee that considered the recommendations noted the blanket removal would avoid potentially contentious value judgments about the character and morality of individuals from the past.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:50 pm to Dr RC
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I mean you can cry about it being a dumbing down but giving an animal variant a more descriptive name still makes a hell of a lot more sense than naming it after some random person who wrote about it first.
Better change the name of the American Robbin, which isn't a robbin at all. Names involving colors should be stayed away from, as across a species colors can vary dramatically, even to the point the majority of birds of some species don't match their color-related name at all. We can get terribly convoluted if you want. And, I'm going back the the fricking nonsense that is the Red-bellied Woodpecker. That is peak idiocy.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:50 pm to High C
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You could do this with any group of animals.
I wouldn't have a problem w/it.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:50 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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I noticed names that described how the species looked or how it acted in some way were easier to remember than species with an honorific name," she said. Later in college, she became uncomfortable with the general practice of naming other living things after people, she said.
Until she discovers a new bird.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:50 pm to Dr RC
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A white woman in Central Park called the police and falsely accused Black birder Christian Cooper of threatening her after he asked her to put her dog on a leash. Then in Minneapolis, police killed George Floyd.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:53 pm to 777Tiger
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what about the yellow bellied cum guzzler?
Ag board
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:10 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:Whites are the only race that gives a shite about nature (Japanese too)
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The society wants new bird-watchers hearing bird names for the first time to "feel this is a welcoming environment for people from different backgrounds and just enjoy nature for what it is," Reddy said. "Birds are for everybody. Science is for everybody."
Oh for frick's sake.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:25 pm to LSUGUMBO
Water Turkey aka ninja goose
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:42 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
So no more black headed burger bird ?
I guess all the black birds are gone too
I guess all the black birds are gone too
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:44 pm to LegendInMyMind
If you have to
Then it isn't
Now, if you have a bird out there with a hard R in the name, the complainers have a point.
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put forth the effort to figure out
Then it isn't
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inappropriately named
Now, if you have a bird out there with a hard R in the name, the complainers have a point.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:45 pm to LegendInMyMind
well it pecks wood to get grubs and bugs, and it has red on it's stomach...seems a no brainer to me.
but then again it is an unimaginative name
but then again it is an unimaginative name
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:46 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Bestbank Tiger
You didn't even look at the damn bird! Your opinion is worthless.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:46 pm to LSUGUMBO
further proof life in the USA is too easy.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:51 pm to LegendInMyMind
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You didn't even look at the damn bird! Your opinion is worthless.
It has a slight red tint on its belly. Maybe questionable in terms of being descriptive but not exactly problematic.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:52 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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It has a slight red tint on its belly. Maybe questionable in terms of being descriptive but not exactly problematic.
Pssshhhh....
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:54 pm to LSUGUMBO
frick these articles, give me a list of the names instead of me reading through a bunch of absolute horseshite to try and find them. Plus the breaking up of website articles with ads is one of the top daily annoyances.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:55 pm to PowerTool
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a military general responsible for the Trail of Tears.
I mean democrats did the Indian removal act. We should ban democrats forever.
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