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Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:42 pm to chryso
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Can you give me some examples of bad bird names?
It was hard to find. But I found a couple:
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The Cooper’s hawk, Townsend’s warbler and Bachman’s sparrow are all examples of birds named after someone. They're also the very names a new movement is trying to change.
According to the new initiative — called Bird Names for Birds — such names represent and remember people “who often have objectively horrible pasts.” They owned slaves, took land from Indigenous tribes or advocated for white supremacy, said Jordan Rutter, co-founder of the group.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:42 pm to LSUGUMBO
What about the ones with semi-sexually referencing names?
Why only focus on those easily offended by racial referencing names and ignore the sexual ones.
Why only focus on those easily offended by racial referencing names and ignore the sexual ones.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:42 pm to 777Tiger
Yes
Big ol stone at the entrance painted with it. Up until 10 or so years ago. So funny
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:44 pm to LSUGUMBO
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Following years of controversy over bird names linked to people with racist and genocidal histories, the society's decision thrills ornithologists and scientists who supported a campaign to name birds for themselves.
Finally! This has been eating me alive for years.
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"I'm really excited about this change," said Corina Newsome, an ornithologist who was among a group of dozens of Black outdoor enthusiasts that launched the first Black Birders Week in May 2020.
Nothing racist to see here.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:44 pm to Sao
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Big ol stone at the entrance painted with it. Up until 10 or so years ago
haven't much from old baw since he was Energy czar, or whatever title Trump bought him off for, I'd figure him for being a Capitol Hill lobbyist by now
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:45 pm to LSUGUMBO
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ot on my bingo card- Racist Bird Names
Do you think these nuts are just going to stop their nonsense one day?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:45 pm to LSUGUMBO
Sometimes it makes sense, like when the USGS renamed "Runaway Nagger* Creek" near Savannah.
But this stupid.
But this stupid.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:45 pm to 777Tiger
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New bird names will favor more descriptive names like the blue-footed booby or red-headed woodpecker rather than nebulous names like Ross' goose or Bachman's sparrow that give no clues about how to identify the bird
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even considering replacing the robin's name with five-AM fagget
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:45 pm to chryso
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Can you give me some examples of bad bird names?
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McKown's longspur. The small bird that lives on shortgrass prairies in the Central United States was named for John P. McKown, who first collected a specimen of the species in 1851. That was before he fought in the Seminole Indian War in Florida in 1856 and 1857, before he participated in an expedition against Mormons in Utah in 1858 and before he became a general in the Confederate Army in 1861,
I guess at least we won't be getting the Red footed George Floyd, so that's kind of a win
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:49 pm to LSUGUMBO
Come on guys this doesnt impact in you in any way. This is a nothingburger- OT moderates
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:49 pm to LSUGUMBO
The super annoying part of all this, is that if they'd just left it at this:
I don't think anyone would care. I mean the above does make some logical sense. But to then pivot and say that it's because those dudes were racists just completely alters the entire tone of their point.
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New bird names will favor more descriptive names like the blue-footed booby or red-headed woodpecker rather than nebulous names like Ross' goose or Bachman's sparrow that give no clues about how to identify the bird.
I don't think anyone would care. I mean the above does make some logical sense. But to then pivot and say that it's because those dudes were racists just completely alters the entire tone of their point.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:51 pm to LSUGUMBO
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in effort to….make science more diverse
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:53 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Yup, I actually agree with that part.
is that if they'd just left it at this:
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New bird names will favor more descriptive names like the blue-footed booby or red-headed woodpecker rather than nebulous names like Ross' goose or Bachman's sparrow that give no clues about how to identify the bird.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:55 pm to LSUGUMBO
I enjoy birding, and donate to the Chicago Ornithological Society. Never once have I heard anyone bitch about birds being named after people just because a few of them are deemed "problematic".
I don't even want to know what mental gymnastics were used to find an issue with this one.
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The committee also proposes to change names considered derogatory or culturally inappropriate
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flesh-footed shearwater
I don't even want to know what mental gymnastics were used to find an issue with this one.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:56 pm to Red Drum
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the Society plans to remove all honorific human names
came to the decision that we really want bird names to be about birds
don't see the problem
People will get up in arms about the PC nature of this but the reasoning actually makes sense w/o that part of it added on.
Naming birds after people is kind of dumb since if really gives you no idea about what the bird really is or looks like. The new names will now reflect actual characteristics of the birds in question.
One of the examples given is a rename that already happened. The long tailed duck apparently used to be called the oldsquaw. Say the old name and most people wouldn't know what you were talking about. Say long tailed duck and you know right away that it's a duck w/a tail longer than the average duck.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:57 pm to LSUGUMBO
The natives (feather Indian) call Ravans "Soul Chickens"
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:57 pm to LSUGUMBO
liberal white women strike again
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:57 pm to nvasil1
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flesh-footed shearwater
I don't even want to know what mental gymnastics were used to find an issue with this one.
maybe the complainer's flesh doesn't resemble the bird's flesh. Therefore, of course...racist.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
A bunch of bird brained yellow-belly sap suckers want to rename birds...
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