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re: North Carolina man who challenged black family’s use of pool loses job
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:02 pm to heypaul
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:02 pm to heypaul
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He was the head HOA guy, and pool manager, asked several different people for their ID,
Where are you finding that he asked several different people?
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:12 pm to northshorebamaman
Trespassers in HOA pools are extremely problematic and a real issue with a lot of HOA's. I got no dogs in the fight nor all the details but i will say for everyone say "mind your own business" that if serving a role on the HOA board, that trying to eliminate trespassers is part of his business.
Having a card doesn't necessarily mean she's a home owner. She could have a card from an actual home owner in which the guests alone without them isn't typically allowed.
Having a card doesn't necessarily mean she's a home owner. She could have a card from an actual home owner in which the guests alone without them isn't typically allowed.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:15 pm to Chad504boy
I'm guessing you just responded to the last post in the thread?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:17 pm to Chad504boy
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Having a card doesn't necessarily mean she's a home owner. She could have a card from an actual home owner in which the guests alone without them isn't typically allowed.
True but you should give them the benefit of the doubt and investigate later. Calling the cops is a disproportionate response to a minor offense.
FTR I don't think the guy should have lost his job, but neither do I think he was entitled to it. Act like an a-hole in public and your company could decide to cut you loose. This is the new social media reality.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:20 pm to TxTiger82
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True but you should give them the benefit of the doubt and investigate later. Calling the cops is a disproportionate response to a minor offense.
was she withholding her identity during the initial altercation from him?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:23 pm to Chad504boy
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was she withholding her identity during the initial altercation from him?
He had no right to ask for ID. Hell, in North Carolina people are not even required to show ID to the police unless they are operating a motor vehicle.
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This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:33 pm to tigersbb
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Why? Those who serve on Homeowners Association boards care about their neighborhood and want to maintain the quality o flife and assure everyone complies with the particular ordinance.
this fricking guy
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:38 pm to cas4t
If he apologizes to her at the end instead of ignoring her like a snob he probably keeps his job.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:41 pm to TxTiger82
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He had no right to ask for ID. Hell, in North Carolina people are not even required to show ID to the police unless they are operating a motor vehicle.
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I think you are confusing rights in a private setting verse public. He has every right to ask and deny access if it is a part of the HOA bylaws. She doesnt have to provide it, but she might be denied access
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Calling the cops is a disproportionate response to a minor offense.
Although I agree, but sometimes conflicts evolve to that point. He should have taken the address and done some due diligence before demanding more proof and calling cops. if she has an accident, HOA's insurance probably wont cover her, if she turns out to be a guest and not a resident
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:45 pm to NYCAuburn
Did you watch the video? There were rules posted by the pool which did not specify you had to show ID. Also, he didn't mention shite about bylaws.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:47 pm to NYCAuburn
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if she has an accident, HOA's insurance probably wont cover her, if she turns out to be a guest and not a resident
this is simply not true. Most HOA policies cover liability for guests in common areas. Her medical bills would be covered as well. That's assuming she didn't cause her own accident.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:47 pm to cas4t
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Did you watch the video? There were rules posted by the pool which did not specify you had to show ID
It says all guest must have a resident present
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:48 pm to cas4t
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this is simply not true. Most HOA policies cover liability for guests in common areas.
if the resident is present
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:48 pm to NYCAuburn
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I think you are confusing rights in a private setting verse public. He has every right to ask and deny access if it is a part of the HOA bylaws. She doesnt have to provide it, but she might be denied access
In the video, the police officer clarified the HOA rules, and there is no ID requirement.
1) Each party must have a keycard.
2) Residents must sign in.
The woman had a key card, and the sign in sheet was not out (which means that nobody signed in that day). Given that nobody signed in, it does look an awful lot like this woman was singled out. Why? We can only speculate, but it doesn't look good for the HOA dude.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:49 pm to NYCAuburn
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It says all guest must have a resident present
yet nothing about proving you are a resident. Which is why the key card is sufficient. Those are given to residents.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:50 pm to NYCAuburn
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HOA's insurance probably wont cover her, if she turns out to be a guest and not a resident
I doubt this is the case. You primarily get insurance for these situations.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:50 pm to NYCAuburn
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It says all guest must have a resident present
I think it was been independently established by internet sleuths that the woman is, in fact, a resident of the neighborhood. It was simply her first time at the pool.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:50 pm to TxTiger82
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the police officer clarified the HOA rules,
No he gave his HOAs rules, but all those rules also usually state a resident has to present, just like this one. You just might have to prove your residency
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:50 pm to NYCAuburn
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if the resident is present
that's cute if you think that's how an insurance policy reads. and secondly, you can get sued for anything, defense costs are primarily the huge headache.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:51 pm to NYCAuburn
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You just might have to prove your residency
It didn't say that on the sign, apparently. I'm sorry, but you're wrong on this one.
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