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re: North Carolina man who challenged black family’s use of pool loses job
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:51 pm to cas4t
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:51 pm to cas4t
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yet nothing about proving you are a resident. Which is why the key card is sufficient. Those are given to residents.
And residents give key cards to guest all the time
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:52 pm to Chad504boy
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that's cute if you think that's how an insurance policy reads. and secondly, you can get sued for anything, defense costs are primarily the huge headache.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall during that phone call to their agent when they are wondering why they don't have coverage for the incoming lawsuit due to a guest being injured.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:53 pm to TxTiger82
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It didn't say that on the sign, apparently. I'm sorry, but you're wrong on this one.
It doesnt say a key card proves residency either. The sign says you must be a resident. Yes sometimes you might need to prove it.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:53 pm to NYCAuburn
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And residents give key cards to guest all the time
of course. But the rules are right there. Must be a resident. Residents get key cards. No rule about IDs posted or providing any sort of verification you live there. This is an HOA issue.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:54 pm to NYCAuburn
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Yes sometimes you might need to prove it.
According to the police, you are wrong.
look, the sign should just say "ID required to ensure residency" or something.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:54 pm to TxTiger82
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I think it was been independently established by internet sleuths that the woman is, in fact, a resident of the neighborhood. It was simply her first time at the pool.
Thats fine and I never said she wasnt. I am just referring to generalities and what HOA guy deals with as well
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:54 pm to NYCAuburn
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And residents give key cards to guest all the time
I feel like we are talking in circles. We've come back around to Chad's point, which has already been addressed.
There is no ID rule. So you give the holder of the keycard the benefit of the doubt and investigate later. If you can establish that she is not a resident and you see her again, then act.
There was no grounds for calling the cops. Totally unnecessary, wasteful and, frankly, rude.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:55 pm to NYCAuburn
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Yes sometimes you might need to prove it.
I wonder how the police interpreted this issue. Oh wait ...
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:55 pm to cas4t
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According to the police, you are wrong.
Not in the slightest. They were just satisfied, the officer does not know the HOA by laws regarding the pool in this specific community
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:56 pm to NYCAuburn
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generalities
yea, you can't lean on generalities when you are attempting to kick a potential resident out of a pool in their neighborhood. Gonna need specifics there hoss.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:57 pm to NYCAuburn
Most normal residents would immediately say "i'm Breighden and live in house 444 Plantation St".
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:57 pm to NYCAuburn
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the officer does not know the HOA by laws regarding the pool in this specific community
neither does HOA bro then? Or he does, and quickly realized he made a mistake. It is one or the other.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:57 pm to Chad504boy
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Most normal residents would immediately say "i'm Breighden and live in house 444 Plantation St".
I think she was offended and didn't cooperate on principle.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:57 pm to TxTiger82
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There is no ID rule.
Did you read their bylaws or just the sign in the video?
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So you give the holder of the keycard the benefit of the doubt and investigate later
I said this. He should have been fine with an address for the time being, but if after that, there is still a question, he has every right to ask for ID
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:58 pm to NYCAuburn
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Did you read their bylaws or just the sign in the video?
Obviously, I'm going off the video (i.e., available information). You are speculating.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:59 pm to Chad504boy
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Most normal residents would immediately say "i'm Breighden and live in house 444 Plantation St".
camera started late. She might have said this early on.
Honestly though, I wouldn't respond that way. Some stranger walks up to me randomly playing fricking neighborhood watch... my attitude would be similar to this lady's..
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:59 pm to NYCAuburn
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He should have been fine with an address for the time being, but if after that, there is still a question, he has every right to ask for ID
No rule about providing an address. Frankly, I wouldn't want to tell that a-hole where I lived either.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:00 pm to NYCAuburn
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Did you read their bylaws or just the sign in the video?
It is a reasonable assumption that head of HOA bro would know that the bylaws require having an ID. He would have said this. Or the bylaws do say this- but he didn't know it, hence him not clarifying that residents must provide ID.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:00 pm to Chad504boy
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that's cute if you think that's how an insurance policy reads
It recently came up as an issue with my HOA and their insurance policy. There has been a family that has been using the pool who do not live in the neighborhood, they were given the pass by a resident. I found this whole debate having hilariously weird timing
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:01 pm to cas4t
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Honestly though, I wouldn't respond that way. Some stranger walks up to me randomly playing fricking neighborhood watch... my attitude would be similar to this lady's..
I also understand the importance of keeping trespassers out of HOA facilities. They cause lots of damage and create huge liability issues. How big of a damn HOA do they have that nobody recognized her?
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