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re: Nonconformity and Freethinking Now Considered Mental Illnesses
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to Hog on the Hill
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:Uh, you're not exactly refuting the article with that.
Here is how ODD is actually defined by the DSM:
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:I'm not even going to say anything.
Often argues with adults or people in authority
Often actively defies or refuses to comply with adults' requests or rules
Often deliberately annoys people
Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:55 pm to Stagg8
quote:
Being identified as oppositional defiant is not the same as being a "free-thinker." This article is bad, and the author should feel bad.
No kidding. So flaws we've found so far are:
- It's not citing the newest edition of the DSM.
- ODD was defined in the DSM in the 1980s ("new"

- The OP and author assumes being a "freethinkers" includes at least four symptoms from any of these categories — angry and irritable mood; argumentative and defiant behavior; or vindictiveness
Occurs with at least one individual who is not a sibling
Causes significant problems at work, school or home
Occurs on its own, rather than as part of the course of another mental health problem, such as a substance use disorder, depression or bipolar disorder
Lasts at least six months
That all said, given the OP's message board asshurt, I'm eDiagnosing with him ODD and taking away his computer (and guns). May the Force Be With You.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:All things considered, I'd rather have The Glow.
May the Force Be With You.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:07 pm to blueboy
quote:
New mental illnesses identified by the DSM-IV include arrogance, narcissism, above-average creativity
that has to be a misinterpretation
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:12 pm to blueboy
Gun control legislation (for example) lobbied to be kept out of the hands of those who are "mentally ill"- interesting we are now talking about redefining what a "mentally ill" person is by the same token.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:39 pm to Stagg8
quote:
Being identified as oppositional defiant is not the same as being a "free-thinker." This article is bad, and the author should feel bad.
No doubt. This is bush league journalism.
If you've ever met a true oppositionally defiant child, it's scary.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:37 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
False. ODD is not a qualifying diagnoses for financial benefits
Incorrect. They qualify under Emotinay Disabled (ED) which was added to IDEA in 2004.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:05 pm to blueboy
Everyone will be classified as having a mental illness soon. That's what Obama wants so that he can take your guns.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:07 pm to blueboy
quote:
New mental illnesses identified by the DSM-IV include arrogance, narcissism
So, our president is mentally ill
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:11 pm to rantfan
Lol, this smells like a Scientologist attack article on psychiatry....
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:44 pm to blueboy
quote:
Often argues with adults or people in authority
Often actively defies or refuses to comply with adults' requests or rules
Often deliberately annoys people
Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
That's everything on TD
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:54 pm to blueboy
well bro, y'all gotta takre a number
check out this list, the global police are targeting;
1. Those that talk about “individual liberties”
2. Those that advocate for states’ rights
3. Those that want “to make the world a better place”
4. “The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule”
5. Those that are interested in “defeating the Communists”
6. Those that believe “that the interests of one’s own nation are separate from the interests of other nations or the common interest of all nations”
7. Anyone that holds a “political ideology that considers the state to be unnecessary, harmful, or undesirable”
8. Anyone that possesses an “intolerance toward other religions”
9. Those that “take action to fight against the exploitation of the environment and/or animals”
10. “Anti-Homosexual”
11. “Anti-Immigrant”
12. “Anti-Muslim”
13. “The Patriot Movement”
14. “Opposition to equal rights for homosexuals and lesbians”
15. Members of the Family Research Council
16. Members of the American Family Association
17. Those that believe that Mexico, Canada and the United States “are secretly planning to merge into a European Union-like entity that will be known as the ‘North American Union'”
18. Members of the American Border Patrol/American Patrol
19. Members of the Federation for American Immigration Reform
20. Members of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition
21. Members of the Christian Action Network
22. Anyone that is “opposed to the New World Order”
23. Anyone that is engaged in “conspiracy theorizing”
24. Anyone that is opposed to Agenda 21
25. Anyone that is concerned about FEMA camps
26. Anyone that “fears impending gun control or weapons confiscations”
27. The militia movement
28. The sovereign citizen movement
29. Those that “don’t think they should have to pay taxes”
30. Anyone that “complains about bias”
31. Anyone that “believes in government conspiracies to the point of paranoia”
32. Anyone that “is frustrated with mainstream ideologies”
33. Anyone that “visits extremist websites/blogs”
34. Anyone that “establishes website/blog to display extremist views”
35. Anyone that “attends rallies for extremist causes”
36. Anyone that “exhibits extreme religious intolerance”
37. Anyone that “is personally connected with a grievance”
38. Anyone that “suddenly acquires weapons”
39. Anyone that “organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology”
40. “Militia or unorganized militia”
41. “General right-wing extremist”
42. Citizens that have “bumper stickers” that are patriotic or anti-U.N.
43. Those that refer to an “Army of God”
44. Those that are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”
45. Those that are “anti-global”
46. Those that are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”
47. Those that are “reverent of individual liberty”
48. Those that “believe in conspiracy theories”
49. Those that have “a belief that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack”
50. Those that possess “a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism”
51. Those that would “impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)”
52. Those that would “insert religion into the political sphere”
53. Anyone that would “seek to politicize religion”
54. Those that have “supported political movements for autonomy”
55. Anyone that is “anti-abortion”
56. Anyone that is “anti-Catholic”
57. Anyone that is “anti-nuclear”
58. “Rightwing extremists”
59. “Returning veterans”
60. Those concerned about “illegal immigration”
61. Those that “believe in the right to bear arms”
62. Anyone that is engaged in “ammunition stockpiling”
63. Anyone that exhibits “fear of Communist regimes”
64. “Anti-abortion activists”
65. Those that are against illegal immigration
66. Those that talk about “the New World Order” in a “derogatory” manner
67. Those that have a negative view of the United Nations
68. Those that are opposed “to the collection of federal income taxes”
69. Those that supported former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr
70. Those that display the Gadsden Flag (“Don’t Tread On Me”)
71. Those that believe in “end times” prophecies
72. Evangelical Christians
it's gonna be an insane future for folks....orwell is right around the corner daddio....
check out this list, the global police are targeting;
1. Those that talk about “individual liberties”
2. Those that advocate for states’ rights
3. Those that want “to make the world a better place”
4. “The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule”
5. Those that are interested in “defeating the Communists”
6. Those that believe “that the interests of one’s own nation are separate from the interests of other nations or the common interest of all nations”
7. Anyone that holds a “political ideology that considers the state to be unnecessary, harmful, or undesirable”
8. Anyone that possesses an “intolerance toward other religions”
9. Those that “take action to fight against the exploitation of the environment and/or animals”
10. “Anti-Homosexual”
11. “Anti-Immigrant”
12. “Anti-Muslim”
13. “The Patriot Movement”
14. “Opposition to equal rights for homosexuals and lesbians”
15. Members of the Family Research Council
16. Members of the American Family Association
17. Those that believe that Mexico, Canada and the United States “are secretly planning to merge into a European Union-like entity that will be known as the ‘North American Union'”
18. Members of the American Border Patrol/American Patrol
19. Members of the Federation for American Immigration Reform
20. Members of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition
21. Members of the Christian Action Network
22. Anyone that is “opposed to the New World Order”
23. Anyone that is engaged in “conspiracy theorizing”
24. Anyone that is opposed to Agenda 21
25. Anyone that is concerned about FEMA camps
26. Anyone that “fears impending gun control or weapons confiscations”
27. The militia movement
28. The sovereign citizen movement
29. Those that “don’t think they should have to pay taxes”
30. Anyone that “complains about bias”
31. Anyone that “believes in government conspiracies to the point of paranoia”
32. Anyone that “is frustrated with mainstream ideologies”
33. Anyone that “visits extremist websites/blogs”
34. Anyone that “establishes website/blog to display extremist views”
35. Anyone that “attends rallies for extremist causes”
36. Anyone that “exhibits extreme religious intolerance”
37. Anyone that “is personally connected with a grievance”
38. Anyone that “suddenly acquires weapons”
39. Anyone that “organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology”
40. “Militia or unorganized militia”
41. “General right-wing extremist”
42. Citizens that have “bumper stickers” that are patriotic or anti-U.N.
43. Those that refer to an “Army of God”
44. Those that are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”
45. Those that are “anti-global”
46. Those that are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”
47. Those that are “reverent of individual liberty”
48. Those that “believe in conspiracy theories”
49. Those that have “a belief that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack”
50. Those that possess “a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism”
51. Those that would “impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)”
52. Those that would “insert religion into the political sphere”
53. Anyone that would “seek to politicize religion”
54. Those that have “supported political movements for autonomy”
55. Anyone that is “anti-abortion”
56. Anyone that is “anti-Catholic”
57. Anyone that is “anti-nuclear”
58. “Rightwing extremists”
59. “Returning veterans”
60. Those concerned about “illegal immigration”
61. Those that “believe in the right to bear arms”
62. Anyone that is engaged in “ammunition stockpiling”
63. Anyone that exhibits “fear of Communist regimes”
64. “Anti-abortion activists”
65. Those that are against illegal immigration
66. Those that talk about “the New World Order” in a “derogatory” manner
67. Those that have a negative view of the United Nations
68. Those that are opposed “to the collection of federal income taxes”
69. Those that supported former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr
70. Those that display the Gadsden Flag (“Don’t Tread On Me”)
71. Those that believe in “end times” prophecies
72. Evangelical Christians
it's gonna be an insane future for folks....orwell is right around the corner daddio....
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:59 pm to blueboy
This article is written by someone who doesn't understand facts. What a load of garbage.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:01 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
False. ODD is not a qualifying diagnoses for financial benefits. The only special Ed an ODD kid will qualify for is a behavior disordered class and behavior plan, if even that much. And although it is a diagnosable "mental illness", it is considered by virtually all mental health professionals as a behavior disorder, not "mental"
Just curious but how did you know this? Do you work in child psych or something?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:06 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
"New" mental illness? It's been in the DSM for decades
back then
they weren't considering arresting folks like now...
now rex 84 makes sense
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:35 pm to retired trucker
Pls go back to infowars
I'm begging you
I'm begging you
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:39 pm to blueboy
quote:So the author thinks nonconformity and freethinking equals this? What a fool.
Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,”
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:00 pm to Paige
back?
dumb chicks, go figger...

dumb chicks, go figger...
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:02 pm to blueboy
And people think limiting gun rights for 'mentally ill' people is a great idea...
This is exactly how it starts.
This is exactly how it starts.
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