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re: Nonconformity and Freethinking Now Considered Mental Illnesses

Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60548 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Here is how ODD is actually defined by the DSM:
Uh, you're not exactly refuting the article with that.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60548 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Often argues with adults or people in authority
Often actively defies or refuses to comply with adults' requests or rules
Often deliberately annoys people
Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
I'm not even going to say anything.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104101 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Being identified as oppositional defiant is not the same as being a "free-thinker." This article is bad, and the author should feel bad.


No kidding. So flaws we've found so far are:

- It's not citing the newest edition of the DSM.

- ODD was defined in the DSM in the 1980s ("new" ).

- The OP and author assumes being a "freethinkers" includes at least four symptoms from any of these categories — angry and irritable mood; argumentative and defiant behavior; or vindictiveness

Occurs with at least one individual who is not a sibling

Causes significant problems at work, school or home

Occurs on its own, rather than as part of the course of another mental health problem, such as a substance use disorder, depression or bipolar disorder

Lasts at least six months

That all said, given the OP's message board asshurt, I'm eDiagnosing with him ODD and taking away his computer (and guns). May the Force Be With You.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60548 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

May the Force Be With You.
All things considered, I'd rather have The Glow.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

New mental illnesses identified by the DSM-IV include arrogance, narcissism, above-average creativity

that has to be a misinterpretation
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
10664 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:12 pm to
Gun control legislation (for example) lobbied to be kept out of the hands of those who are "mentally ill"- interesting we are now talking about redefining what a "mentally ill" person is by the same token.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7973 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Being identified as oppositional defiant is not the same as being a "free-thinker." This article is bad, and the author should feel bad.


No doubt. This is bush league journalism.

If you've ever met a true oppositionally defiant child, it's scary.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33928 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

False. ODD is not a qualifying diagnoses for financial benefits

Incorrect. They qualify under Emotinay Disabled (ED) which was added to IDEA in 2004.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:05 pm to
Everyone will be classified as having a mental illness soon. That's what Obama wants so that he can take your guns.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

New mental illnesses identified by the DSM-IV include arrogance, narcissism


So, our president is mentally ill
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16320 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:11 pm to
Lol, this smells like a Scientologist attack article on psychiatry....
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Often argues with adults or people in authority
Often actively defies or refuses to comply with adults' requests or rules
Often deliberately annoys people
Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior


That's everything on TD
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:54 pm to
well bro, y'all gotta takre a number

check out this list, the global police are targeting;


1. Those that talk about “individual liberties”

2. Those that advocate for states’ rights

3. Those that want “to make the world a better place”

4. “The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule”

5. Those that are interested in “defeating the Communists”

6. Those that believe “that the interests of one’s own nation are separate from the interests of other nations or the common interest of all nations”

7. Anyone that holds a “political ideology that considers the state to be unnecessary, harmful, or undesirable”

8. Anyone that possesses an “intolerance toward other religions”

9. Those that “take action to fight against the exploitation of the environment and/or animals”

10. “Anti-Homosexual”

11. “Anti-Immigrant”

12. “Anti-Muslim”

13. “The Patriot Movement”

14. “Opposition to equal rights for homosexuals and lesbians”

15. Members of the Family Research Council

16. Members of the American Family Association

17. Those that believe that Mexico, Canada and the United States “are secretly planning to merge into a European Union-like entity that will be known as the ‘North American Union'”

18. Members of the American Border Patrol/American Patrol

19. Members of the Federation for American Immigration Reform

20. Members of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition

21. Members of the Christian Action Network

22. Anyone that is “opposed to the New World Order”

23. Anyone that is engaged in “conspiracy theorizing”

24. Anyone that is opposed to Agenda 21

25. Anyone that is concerned about FEMA camps

26. Anyone that “fears impending gun control or weapons confiscations”

27. The militia movement

28. The sovereign citizen movement

29. Those that “don’t think they should have to pay taxes”

30. Anyone that “complains about bias”

31. Anyone that “believes in government conspiracies to the point of paranoia”

32. Anyone that “is frustrated with mainstream ideologies”

33. Anyone that “visits extremist websites/blogs”

34. Anyone that “establishes website/blog to display extremist views”

35. Anyone that “attends rallies for extremist causes”

36. Anyone that “exhibits extreme religious intolerance”

37. Anyone that “is personally connected with a grievance”

38. Anyone that “suddenly acquires weapons”

39. Anyone that “organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology”

40. “Militia or unorganized militia”

41. “General right-wing extremist”

42. Citizens that have “bumper stickers” that are patriotic or anti-U.N.

43. Those that refer to an “Army of God”

44. Those that are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”

45. Those that are “anti-global”

46. Those that are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”

47. Those that are “reverent of individual liberty”

48. Those that “believe in conspiracy theories”

49. Those that have “a belief that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack”

50. Those that possess “a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism”

51. Those that would “impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)”

52. Those that would “insert religion into the political sphere”

53. Anyone that would “seek to politicize religion”

54. Those that have “supported political movements for autonomy”

55. Anyone that is “anti-abortion”

56. Anyone that is “anti-Catholic”

57. Anyone that is “anti-nuclear”

58. “Rightwing extremists”

59. “Returning veterans”

60. Those concerned about “illegal immigration”

61. Those that “believe in the right to bear arms”

62. Anyone that is engaged in “ammunition stockpiling”

63. Anyone that exhibits “fear of Communist regimes”

64. “Anti-abortion activists”

65. Those that are against illegal immigration

66. Those that talk about “the New World Order” in a “derogatory” manner

67. Those that have a negative view of the United Nations

68. Those that are opposed “to the collection of federal income taxes”

69. Those that supported former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr

70. Those that display the Gadsden Flag (“Don’t Tread On Me”)

71. Those that believe in “end times” prophecies

72. Evangelical Christians



it's gonna be an insane future for folks....orwell is right around the corner daddio....
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29155 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:59 pm to
This article is written by someone who doesn't understand facts. What a load of garbage.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29155 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

False. ODD is not a qualifying diagnoses for financial benefits. The only special Ed an ODD kid will qualify for is a behavior disordered class and behavior plan, if even that much. And although it is a diagnosable "mental illness", it is considered by virtually all mental health professionals as a behavior disorder, not "mental"

Just curious but how did you know this? Do you work in child psych or something?
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

"New" mental illness? It's been in the DSM for decades


back then

they weren't considering arresting folks like now...










now rex 84 makes sense
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85497 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:35 pm to
Pls go back to infowars

I'm begging you
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112438 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,”
So the author thinks nonconformity and freethinking equals this? What a fool.
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:00 pm to
back?











dumb chicks, go figger...
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37248 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:02 pm to
And people think limiting gun rights for 'mentally ill' people is a great idea...

This is exactly how it starts.
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