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re: NOLA council votes to remove the Monuments- Discussion thread

Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
12278 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:37 pm to
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greater day to see you rednecks pissed.


The people who are discussing the historic value of the statues and the idiotic hypocrisy of this circus are far from rednecks.. But you've clearly identified yourself.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26696 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
Well, one less reason to visit New Orleans. Glad we can remove history at will. Guess when we no longer like what WWII spawned, that we'll level the museum. Slippery slope.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Guidry is an establishment, bought and paid for by the old white elite, gal. I would have thought she would have voted not to rock the boat by taking them down.



I would have been shocked if she'd voted no.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
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On what grounds? That the City Council of New Orleans doesn't have the authority to remove national monuments in their city?




exactly
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26632 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
I would absolutely love to see them take on Mt. Rushmore.

#takedownmtrushmore
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

On what grounds? That the City Council of New Orleans doesn't have the authority to build or remove monuments in their city?

Good luck with that.


Here, dumbass:

quote:

Lee Circle with the R. Lee statue was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1991 by the Sidney Barthelemy administration. The PT Beauregard memorial is also on the National Register. The Mayor, City Council, et al do not have the authority to move either without the approval of the SHPO and must meet the Federal Guidelines to do so. According to the federal regulations this may entail the recreation of a similar "Lee Circle" in an equally prominent area with all appurtenances as the entire Circle is on the register Moving it would entail a full recreation of the entire Circle with Street Car routes, mound, monument, marble obelisk, etc. Nice political rhetoric but I am sure that the administration either knows this or should have know it. When the Laws kick in that are requirements of being on the Federal Register the blame will then be placed on the Federal government when in fact the City actively campaigned within recent times to impose those restrictive covenants to insure its longevity as it is presently constructed and displayed. A simple case of jumping on the bandwagon when reality dictates that it can be done but with 10's of millions of dollars to do so and in the end you will have the same memorial in an equally prominent area as the law dictates.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21757 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
I am happy with the vote. Now, the violence in New Orleans will finally come to an end.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
I'm sure the hope is that you draw the thing out for years in the courts, and that it all blows over.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Go tell it on the mountain, over the hills and every where


I'm waiting for #BLM to go after and get Mt. Rushmore removed now.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16224 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
There was an article in either the Picayune or maybe city business that addressed ownership of some of the monuments and agreements with the city. There could be a few groups with standing to challenge this.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
15653 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

It really was a bad day when the price of personal computers came down and rednecks discovered the internet


Only to be trumped by the government giving away phones with access to the internet so every ghetto frick in the world could have a "voice."
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Rex


how does it feel knowing you just got duped by some grandstanding at a dog and pony show?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27311 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Lee Circle with the R. Lee statue was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1991 by the Sidney Barthelemy administration. The PT Beauregard memorial is also on the National Register. The Mayor, City Council, et al do not have the authority to move either without the approval of the SHPO and must meet the Federal Guidelines to do so. According to the federal regulations this may entail the recreation of a similar "Lee Circle" in an equally prominent area with all appurtenances as the entire Circle is on the register Moving it would entail a full recreation of the entire Circle with Street Car routes, mound, monument, marble obelisk, etc. Nice political rhetoric but I am sure that the administration either knows this or should have know it. When the Laws kick in that are requirements of being on the Federal Register the blame will then be placed on the Federal government when in fact the City actively campaigned within recent times to impose those restrictive covenants to insure its longevity as it is presently constructed and displayed. A simple case of jumping on the bandwagon when reality dictates that it can be done but with 10's of millions of dollars to do so and in the end you will have the same memorial in an equally prominent area as the law dictates.


Now that's interesting.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
They cannot legally just go take them down. It is gonna cost tens (close to 100) of millions of dollars to do it if they can

Lakeview residents rejoice

Watch how much they bitch about not having the money to hire cops next year. Bunch of dumb mf'ers. This will actually REDUCE the number of cops, firemen, emergency services personel, and infrastructure projects in the city.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted by heypaul
The O-T Lounge
Member since May 2008
38457 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
So who's going to chain themselves to the statues?
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4327 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
Well said
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

I would absolutely love to see them take on Mt. Rushmore.

#takedownmtrushmore


i'm not a historian but there's gotta be something racial about one of dem's backgrounds.... not that the facts of their backgrounds are even that important in these offensive times.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15804 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
So what's the next step in this process?
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
choc, are you triggered right now baw?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148040 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
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I'm sure the hope is that you draw the thing out for years in the courts, and that it all blows over.

Mitch the bitch wanted it done before the upcoming tricentennial celebration in 2018

he's already lost the super bowl bid... he'll be 0/2 when the courts tell him no
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