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re: Nobody wants to work anymore
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:13 pm to Upperdecker
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:13 pm to Upperdecker
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His wife had the baby but it’s his baby too. There’s a ton of things to do when a baby is first born and it takes a week or so to get adjusted. Fathers should get 1-2 weeks to be with their child and wife
I paid an employee years ago for 1 week. I told him he could take off a year if he wanted but I'm only paying 1 week. That seems decent enough
Allow the time they need, but shite I can't pay you for several weeks not to be here. 
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:14 pm to EarlyCuyler3
There's a wide gap between a lot of companies and the 500 that that represent less than 20% of the US workforce.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:18 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:19 pm to GRTiger
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Your caricature of the fat cat CEO is not reality for 99% of companies. It's just not.
At public companies it pretty much is unless you are a total a-hole. It's not dissimilar from high level coaches. Dude can't win more than 6 NFL games, sits out a year and gets hired by another organization for $10 million a year.
It's hard to get to that level, but once you are there, it's hard to get kicked out tok
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:20 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
All these younglings are weak minded npc bots with zero work effort
Its sad but they are perfect for the meta verse
Its sad but they are perfect for the meta verse
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:20 pm to Seen
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I paid an employee years ago for 1 week. I told him he could take off a year if he wanted but I'm only paying 1 week. That seems decent enough Allow the time they need, but shite I can't pay you for several weeks not to be here.
But if someone else is willing to (and many are, increasingly so) you lose. So adjust or don't bitch about it
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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It's hard to get to that level, but once you are there, it's hard to get kicked out
I would say hard is an understatement. Statistically, it's essentially impossible. Basically nobody who runs an organization is immune to consequences for that organization failing.
How many Bed Bath and Beyond employees jumped out of a high rise last week? Was it a sales clerk who did it?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:27 pm to SDVTiger
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All these younglings are weak minded npc bots with zero work effort
Your generation made them, so it makes sense.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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So adjust or don't bitch about it
They can change job titles and legal responsibilities around all they want. And they do. At the end of the day, the company always wants it both ways.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:29 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Your generation made them, so it makes sense.
Well its good to see you losers dont want chnage
What happened to hope and change
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:30 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I’ll also state that a key problem we now have now is that a large percentage of the population, probably more than 50%, is not physically or mentally capable of doing the type of work that pays well in a modern high tech economy. In many cases this is genetic but they’ve also been failed by our education system and brainwashed into believing that wasting time on useless stuff in school will lead to success down the road. When that success doesn’t materialize, they’re choosing a different path rather than continuing to beat their heads against a wall they’ll never get through.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:35 pm to cahoots
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They demand bullshite like staying late for no reason or sucking corporate cock at every moment
Bingo. And as someone else said, not everyone can be a Director/VP/etc. which means that for the vast majority of people, the difference between going the extra mile and coasting is a rounding error in compensation.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:36 pm to cahoots
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They demand bullshite like staying late for no reason or sucking corporate cock at every moment
That’s always amused me. You get in at 6am? Cool. What value did you bring the first few hours? Oh, you drank coffee and read the newspaper? You stay late, work weekends? Show me what you accomplished. What value did you bring?
arse in seat is the laziest fricking managerial metric in the world. Well, maybe second after years of service.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:37 pm to NOLAVOL16
quote:fact and it's not talked about enough. at this rate, this isn't something that's ever going to improve as time goes by and i'm not sure what the answer is other than ubi.
I’ll also state that a key problem we now have now is that a large percentage of the population, probably more than 50%, is not physically or mentally capable of doing the type of work that pays well in a modern high tech economy.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:42 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeah I have no idea what the solution is either but the problem is only going to get worse.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:45 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Drastic cuts to the welfare state. Actual negative consequences are a great motivator. This country should try it sometime.
i'm not sure what the answer is
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:53 pm to SDVTiger
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What happened to hope and change
You mean boomer propaganda?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:55 pm to kingbob
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The biggest problem today is that jobs either only want employees to work part time to avoid paying benefits or they want them to work massive amounts of uncompensated overtime on nights and weekends while also being on call 24/7. It’s insane. People just don’t want to work 60 hrs/week for barely enough money to survive. People want to be able to leave work and leave their jobs behind them. Why don’t 40/hr jobs that pay enough to live on exist anywhere anymore?
I find this to be 100% true. Companies have no idea how to give the current generation a work life balance that works out for the company and the employee. It’s amazing to me that the 4 10s with 3 off hasn’t took off. Every company that has ever implemented or experimented with it has reported success of having low turnover and high morale.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:56 pm to EarlyCuyler3
quote:There is, but probably not the way you think. A Fortune 500 CEO with option-heavy compensation has a lot of downside risk that isn't in his control. You can't scale the size of the business to the market. Often Wall St. punishes a company that over-performs expectation as bad as a miss. And sometimes the market takes a dump having no relation to what the company did. You can easily get stuck with tons of shares in company you don't even work for anymore.
I never said it was. There's a pretty wide gap between small business owner and fortune 500.
I work with a lot of C-level people. You'd have to pay me an arse-pile of money to take their jobs. There's probably not enough money available to hire me for those jobs. Not because I'm a greedy fat cat, but, because it's a f*cking miserable job.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 8:06 pm
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