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re: No Liquidity - Silicon Valley Bank meltdown sparks contagion fears

Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Dirtyboro
Member since Jul 2014
717 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:03 pm to
Good, frick them all. That bitch Gensler has watched naked shorting en masse for 2 fricking years with no enforcement. Burn it all down
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13490 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:04 pm to
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If the taxpayers bail this bank out, I am going to be supremely pissed.

They should just temporarily move to Ukraine where they'll magically recover in a matter of days.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:04 pm to
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My wife cashed in a CD from a local bank recently for 100k and got cash no problem


How much of a notice did she give the bank?

You aren't walking out of most banks with 100k on the spot
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52540 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:04 pm to
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We currently have minimal exposure to cryptocurrency


Minimal... They just banked the two largest crypto venture funds that exist and the second largest stablecoin operator.

Technicality they did not have direct exposure since they did not hold the coins themselves I guess
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5597 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
Holy crap, they already appointed a receiver. JHC that is fast. Meanwhile in insider related news, Berkshire Hathaway is sitting on the most cash they've ever had. Nothing more to see there, just a coincidence.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30963 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:09 pm to
Sounds like poor leadership at the top.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52540 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Berkshire Hathaway is sitting on the most cash they've ever had. Nothing more to see there, just a coincidence.


Zero chance Warren is interested in the trash heap
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Minimal... They just banked the two largest crypto venture funds that exist and the second largest stablecoin operator.


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Technicality they did not have direct exposure since they did not hold the coins themselves I guess


Right. Being the bank of a crypto fund or other venture does not equate to having exposure to crypto on their balance sheet. Now, what it does do is reduce their deposits, which is what people were worried about. Their recent sale of MBSs at a loss is a signal that they've lost deposits.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52540 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:10 pm to
It will beg the question how much does Circle have stuck at SBV now. Zero chance that USDC is backed 1:1. Which no one truly believed anyways.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3812 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:11 pm to
The free market is a myth.
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:20 pm to
Privatized profits and socialized losses. The USA way. But instead of bailing them out, let them implode.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Too big to fail.
It failed.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59279 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Bill Ackman, the billionaire hedge fund manager, called on the US government to step in and bail out Silicon Valley Bank.


Just like Obama bailed out the Auto Industry Biden will do the same for Silicon Valley. BOOK IT. To many democrat big wigs in Silicon valley for Biden not to write that Big Check to at the tax payers expense. This is the clown world that the democrats have built and the idiots will vote and cheat to keep it that way
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29905 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:48 pm to
The VC world kind of needs a good flush.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80918 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:09 pm to
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And trading is halted meaning SEC is letting big players get all their chips lined up to hedge losses.



Everything called the SEC is run by crooks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:12 pm to
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But instead of bailing them out, let them implode.


People are going to have to get more comfortable with risk.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2490 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:29 pm to
Bank failures since 2009

Year Total number of bank failures: 512
2023 1
2022 0
2021 0
2020 4
2019 4
2018 0
2017 8
2016 5
2015 8
2014 18
2013 24
2012 51
2011 92
2010 157
2009 140
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41081 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:06 pm to
Well, First NBC is now off the clock for biggest bank failure since 08/09.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3026 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:26 pm to
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I've never, ever been a fan of a bank making risky investment plays.


Except, they didn’t really.

Got burned by rates and by their heavy VC deposit base, which are burning cash right now and an easily spooked market.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41081 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Except, they didn’t really.

Got burned by rates and by their heavy VC deposit base, which are burning cash right now.


If they were that heavy in bonds, such that rates could burn them like that, I'd still say that's risky.

If it's a cash burn issue... this is not new(ish) and you would think there would have been someone watching this before now.
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