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re: Nicholls considering temporary closure

Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:00 pm to
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February 11, 2016


Dear Alumni and Friends,


I am taking the unusual step of asking for your immediate support for higher education. 


Governor John Bel Edwards and state legislators are facing an unprecedented budget scenario.  On January 22, higher education was told to prepare for a $131 million cut, and this may go higher.  A cut of this magnitude would represent a $2.9 million cut to McNeese, a large percentage of our general fund appropriation. 


An even larger budget shortfall is forecast for the next fiscal year that begins July 1.  This shortfall could have a catastrophic impact on higher education in Louisiana.


McNeese has already sustained a reduction of over $20 million in annual state general fund appropriations since 2009. We have trimmed expenses, found efficiencies, and coped with the loss of 200 employees by reorganizing staff to take on additional duties. We have also depleted reserves and increased student tuition and fees to provide necessary operating funds.


These are challenging times that will require thoughtful deliberation, compromise, and clear communication between the Governor’s Office and the Legislature. I am not suggesting that any particular scenario to solve the budget deficit should be preferred.  What I am asking is that you make your voice heard with a very clear message:  that you support McNeese and that it is imperative that the Governor and Legislature take whatever reasonable steps are necessary to end these cuts to higher education.  You can find contact information by inserting a Louisiana address in the boxes found at the following website: LINK


Thanks for supporting McNeese!




This is the email I received shortly after the JBE speech.

McNeese in my opinion has taken the necessary steps to preserve the University in the face of these cuts. McNeese has been working hard to build a coalition with Sowela as well as expanding offering of online coursework.

Maybe other universities are doing it do, but I haven't seen the kind of strides that McNeese has made.

McNeese economic impact enclosed in email
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:00 pm to
I don't think Grambling or Southern are going anywhere.

Besides those schools, keep Tech, LSU, ULL, UNO and SELU.

That gives you 7 4 year universities (probably still too many) with 2 schools up north, 1 school in SWLA, and 4 in SELA which makes sense given the populations of those regions.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24838 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Sad but it would be good for the state if a lot of those UL system colleges closed. They were never supposed to be 4 year colleges anyway. Opened as JCs to feed into LSU and should have stayed that way.


You have this backwards. IT was all the LSU's (E,A,S) that were intended to be community colleges back in the day that evolved to 4 year institutions.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120070 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:04 pm to
Do they still have bells that ring to let classes out on the campus of Nicholls. The first time I ever been to Nicholls a friend of mine was going there and he & I were going somewhere after he got of class. I was waiting around then all of a sudden I heard a bell ring and then all the classes let out.. Like in high school.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:05 pm to
Nicholls and Grambling should be the first to get shut down
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465853 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:06 pm to
that's the problem with SWLA (and i mean LC and it's surrounding areas, not South-Central LA around Lafayette)

we're the "blue collar" population that rolls our sleeves up and deals with problems without bitching, and on top of that we don't tend to take too many risks that may bind us. so during the good times, we get criticized for being smart and in the bad times we get ignored for not bitching as loud as everyone else
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77751 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:09 pm to
I could've sworn at one point that Southeastern was the fastest growing school in the country.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:17 pm to
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no, you're going to save your money and go to a college that offers housing. If you don't have the money, join the military and take advantage of the GI bill. If that doesn't work for you, guess you aren't going to college



But, Mr. Obama said everybody should go to college
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

The only schools that they should keep is
Your not making it look good for us brah
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:19 pm to
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I don't think Grambling or Southern are going anywhere.

Besides those schools, keep Tech, LSU, ULL, UNO and SELU.

That gives you 7 4 year universities (probably still too many) with 2 schools up north, 1 school in SWLA, and 4 in SELA which makes sense given the populations of those regions.



I like this list but even I would cut out SELU. There is no need for 4 universities in that region and having 1 in BR and 1 in NO should be enough.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:24 pm to
My contention with closing either SLU or UNO is that neither one has the ability to support all of the students coming from the other. It's not easy to stick an extra 10 or 15k students somewhere
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10533 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:25 pm to


SELU is going nowhere
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37922 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Southeastern was the fastest growing school in the country.


I heard this right after Katrina.

IDK if it's still true.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16648 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:35 pm to
Nichols will not close. Caters to four or five fricking parishes. Close grambling
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:38 pm to
Uno is a ghost town I'm sure they can take half that
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7687 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:46 pm to
Seems clear to me, after reading this thread, that the state should convene a panel of non-Louisiana natives to look at this. Otherwise, we will probably end up adding to the list of 4-year universities.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42936 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 1:48 pm to
As long as the panel isn't a bunch of good ole gumps from BAMA, I can see this as a plausible solution.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42888 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 2:02 pm to
2 week closure?

I'm sure the students wouldn't mind an extra week of spring break. If they plan correctly they will have 1 week off and closed during spring break, then the other week following. At the end of the day they were just closed down for 1 week?

Not sure how a 2 week closure affects spring sports. For instance, if Nicholls Baseball had scheduled games they can still play or forfeit since University is closed? Student Athletes are possibly the ones that would be the most affected.
Posted by Hockamaw
Member since Feb 2016
175 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 2:02 pm to
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You have this backwards. IT was all the LSU's (E,A,S) that were intended to be community colleges back in the day that evolved to 4 year institutions.


No, you have it wrong. LSU-E, A, and S were opened up in the 1960s to accommodate people who wanted a junior college after the (much older) UL system schools had gone 4 year.

Remember, we didn't have a CC system here until very recently.
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
Like base closings, all would have to agree in advance to accept the results. Of course in reality all would immediately seek to put their thumb on the scale for their favored school, and later discount the recommendation when that college is not kept or enhanced.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 2:09 pm
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