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re: Nice visual to help understand the manipulation of the “guidance”

Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:04 pm to
They should do unvaccinated too and show how small a percentage of unvaccinated people are catching it and dying.
Posted by jfw3535
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:06 pm to
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They should do unvaccinated too and show how small a percentage of unvaccinated people are catching it and dying.


Agree
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Stop playing dumb


Oh, he’s not playing… C on Z is really, really dumb.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Oh, he’s not playing… C on Z is really, really dumb.


That's actually a huge understatement.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:15 pm to
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patriotic thing to do.” - Joe Biden
Democrats invoking patriotism.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:17 pm to
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“I would recommend it,” Trump said during an interview on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo. “And I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly. But again, we have our freedoms and we have to live by that and I agree with that also. But it is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine and it is something that works.”
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:21 pm to
So, we’re saying that Trump and Biden said the same thing, and the graphic bears that out. Why is that a point to argue about?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:22 pm to
Notice how he said "recommend". Nowhere did he say he would bring the power of the federal government to arrest people or otherwise harass those choosing not to get vaxxed. But you knew that.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:22 pm to
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2020 Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris this weekend overtly undermined any COVID-19 vaccine rolled out by the Trump administration in the fall. She told CNN Sunday she didn't "trust" the White House incumbent.
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"I will not take his word for it," the California senator said.


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Biden outright suggested it would be unsafe to take a coronavirus vaccine shot because then-President Donald Trump “continues to mislead and lie.’
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“An enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. Enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say the following protocol will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie,” he said.


Goes both ways...
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:27 pm to
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So, we’re saying that Trump and Biden said the same thing, and the graphic bears that out. Why is that a point to argue about?



no idea

but that dude decided to highlight that as some type of "gotcha", so just felt compelled to match his "gotcha"

its all dumb

This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Notice how he said "recommend". Nowhere did he say he would bring the power of the federal government to arrest people or otherwise harass those choosing not to get vaxxed. But you knew that.



notice how the guy I responded to only highlighted the "it works" part

but you knew that
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:28 pm to
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but that dude decided to highlight that as some type of "gotcha", so just felt compelled to match his "gotcha"




quote:

its all dumb


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:29 pm to
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they consistently flip-flop


Because "Scientists" got tangled up with politicians.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:32 pm to
don't judge me when you just did the same thing
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Masks work
Masks don’t work
Only certain masks work
Masks are 100% necessary to stop the spread
There’s really not much difference produced by mask mandates

As scientists/doctors are learning about the virus and its variants, it was always going to make sense that the guidance was going to change. You can’t bank on what you already knew by March to be 100% applicable to today.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:33 pm to
Just wait until you get the sugondeese variant.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Now do deaths of invaded people without pre existing conditions

Que?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:34 pm to
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As scientists/doctors are learning about the virus and its variants, it was always going to make sense that the guidance was going to change


This is called a cop out. Masks are fairly straight forward.

I don't know why it's so hard for you people to admit "science" got politicized.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:36 pm to
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“An enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. Enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say the following protocol will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie,” he said.
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Goes both ways...


Yeah, I'll never trust government (either party) again.

I'm so tired of the waffling and trying to justify it. Stupid people are easily influenced though.
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