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re: Newly obtained texts suggest Fauci privately worried about vaccine and miscarriage risk

Posted on 8/11/26 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23562 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

He obviously saw there was data to potentially support a higher rate of miscarriage's

But he didn't say that. He said theoretically there could be an issue with it. We tested that theory and it was proven to not be an issue because miscarriage rates were exactly the same.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112485 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 2:54 pm to
He actually sent a follow up text that exact same day saying that data from 10,000 vaccinated pregnant women showed no risk of miscarriages
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6362 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:43 pm to
Tuberville is an absolute idiot. “Fortunately” he’s just going to be Alabama’s problem in a few months.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:44 pm to
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But he didn't say that


He was sending text messages. No way he puts a whole train of thought in a text message.

Exactly why he took the 5th. People cant deal with context.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 3:50 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
17066 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:53 pm to
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Exactly why he took the 5th. People cant deal with context.
or he has a pardon and all of his past lies are covered so best to not do it again
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:01 pm to
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or he has a pardon and all of his past lies are covered so best to not do it again


Yep.

Ain't no way I would talk to someone who say their goal is to see me behind bars.

Sorry brah, good luck with getting your answers with threats.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4433 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:07 pm to
The shot was approved for use by the FDA in December of 2020 with phase 1 trial testing on humans starting in April of 2020. So as I stated before, it was under a year (only a month available to public).
For the trial phases both Moderna and Pfizer tested people for being pregnant as they DID NOT WANT TO TEST ON PREGNANT WOMEN. 12 women made it through the cracks on Pfizer being pregnant in phase trials and a small undisclosed amount for Moderna.

So you tell me how in the hell is one supposed to say one way or the other if it is safe for pregnant women when the trials were intended to avoid pregnant women.

So I ask again…how can he have concern it could cause problems and then less than a month later tell the public there is no concern with ZERO evidence to support that claim. In the end it may have turned out not to cause it, but it also could have and he is making recommendations with no evidence to support it.

Try harder dumb frick
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40507 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:12 pm to
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he is making recommendations with no evidence to support it.


If this were true, you’d have a point.

But it’s not, so you don’t.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4433 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:12 pm to
April of 2021 is when the CDC guidance came out…4 months after it came out for public use and for a vaccine that was intentionally NOT tested on pregnant women before that.

Let me repeat…CLINICAL PHASE TRIALS WERE NOT TESTED ON PREGNANT WOMEN.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

The shot was approved for use by the FDA in December of 2020 with phase 1 trial testing on humans starting in April of 2020. So as I stated before, it was under a year (only a month available to public).


Couldn't even be bothered to read the OP or the text messages.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:13 pm to
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Let me repeat…CLINICAL PHASE TRIALS WERE NOT TESTED ON PREGNANT WOMEN.


So no pregnant women had taken rhe shot. You are sure of this.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4433 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:16 pm to
You did not test that theory before he said pregnant women can take it.

Go see how many pregnant women were tested during trial phases and get back to me on how he had enough evidence to support recommending it.

In the end, the data may have shown it didn’t cause more miscarriages..but we had “Mr Science” stating there was zero to worry about and recommending it with no actual phase trial data to support that claim and this was not told to the public that no clinical testing had been done to support this recommendation.


Try harder
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4433 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:21 pm to
Clinical trials tested women for being pregnant before accepting them into trial phasing as they did NOT want pregnant women testing out the vaccine.

According to Pfizer’s, 12 women given the vaccine made it through trials after getting pregnant after the trials had started.

Sit down dude.

Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4433 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:22 pm to
Please show the evidence that supported his recommendation.

Clown
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1580 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:47 pm to
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there are hundred of thousands of extra American deaths to account for in that exact time frame
Those numbers were proven to be complete bullshite years ago.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112485 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

The shot was approved for use by the FDA in December of 2020 with phase 1 trial testing on humans starting in April of 2020. So as I stated before, it was under a year (only a month available to public). For the trial phases both Moderna and Pfizer tested people for being pregnant as they DID NOT WANT TO TEST ON PREGNANT WOMEN. 12 women made it through the cracks on Pfizer being pregnant in phase trials and a small undisclosed amount for Moderna. So you tell me how in the hell is one supposed to say one way or the other if it is safe for pregnant women when the trials were intended to avoid pregnant women. So I ask again…how can he have concern it could cause problems and then less than a month later tell the public there is no concern with ZERO evidence to support that claim. In the end it may have turned out not to cause it, but it also could have and he is making recommendations with no evidence to support it. Try harder dumb frick


At the time of this text message, 10,000 pregnant women had already taken the vaccine during EUA
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1580 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:51 pm to
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I was about to type something but you’re actually too stupid to understand my point.
This is weak. You’ve got nothing so you’re resorting insults.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 4:55 pm to
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Clinical trials tested women for being pregnant before accepting them into trial phasing as they did NOT want pregnant women testing out the vaccine.



Clinical trials were over

You are literally arguing a point that has now been proven over and over. But just don't like that experts in this field used actual data available to make the right decision.

You ar arguing "what if" about something we now know and they made the 100% correct assumptions.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20616 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:00 pm to
That doesn’t sound good but not as bad as the whole secretly funding gain of function research in a Chinese lab and then trying to cover his tracks when it got out and killed millions of people and disrupted the world for a few years thing.

That is a little worse IMO.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23562 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:14 pm to
That's where I am with this. There are plenty of valid criticisms without having to resort to made up numbers. They knew that masks were largely ineffective but pushed them anyway. They refused to acknowledge natural immunity from infections. That eroded the public's trust. We had tons of ridiculous public policy that they deserve blame for.

The idea that millions of women miscarried or millions of people died from the vaccine and are somehow hidden, is fiction.
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