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re: New study: Covid goes for Heme, causing lung inflammation

Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60441 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:20 pm to
Start with google.
It’s a great research tool.
Start Page and Gibiru are pretty good too.
Maybe Duck Duck.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34811 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:21 pm to
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To the average person this means exactly jack, but if this is accurate, identifying the specific mode of attack the virus has on the body goes a long way to fine tuning treatment. I think we're already seeing improvements in treatment just from kind of slinging mud at the wall.


Diabetes = highly glycated hemoglobin (high A1C)

Diabetics and pre-diabetics are getting pummeled by this disease.

Heme metabolism logically has something to do with that.

In short, checks out from an epi perspective.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:32 pm to
Hemolung works!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41500 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:34 pm to
You realize by the time it took you to reply you could have sent your sources.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6053 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:42 pm to
Count me in. Going to get that hemocrit up to 50 and crush fools
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60441 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:47 pm to
Pearls before swine.

The mentally adept and curious will investigate and learn.
Posted by IM4LSUTIGERS
Member since Dec 2006
974 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:50 pm to
This is not new. I read this from a doctor over a week ago. And - I do think this is correct.

To the person who wrote we need more iron ions - no you don't. That is the problem - the outer cell layer has been compromised allowing millions of these iron ions running through your body.

What is needed is a method; whether drugs or whatever to stop the virus from replicating in your body which compromises the red blood cells from carrying Oxygen to your body.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5355 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:51 pm to
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don't tell that to Dr.Fauchi. He said it doesn't do any good at all.


Pretty sure he didn't say that at all. All I heard was he is not going to speculate until testing on it were complete...??
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5355 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:52 pm to
No problems finding C?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:54 pm to
This device removes CO2 from the blood
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:05 pm to
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So we all need to eat more iron ions...got it.

I have a freezer full of beef. Gettin my iron i on.
Posted by Emmit Fitzhume
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40011 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:16 pm to
It's more zinc I was having a hard time with as I have in my post. And sadly I was looking more for C gummies -- my peeps are weird with pills.

Thanks for the CVS info.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:18 pm to
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Hence why hydroxychloroquine is able to help by preventing iron depletion from the cells and decreasing the cytokines storm.

How does hydroxychloroquine prevent iron depletion from cells?
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7940 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:19 pm to
So...we are saying this blood related now. They sure this can’t be caught from mosquitoes?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52917 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:38 pm to
I have questions:

As far as I know, ACE2 is purely an expression on epithelial tissue cells, not erythrocytes.

As an aside, viruses can’t replicate in mature human red blood cells anyway.

And the paper pre write doesn’t even speak about en vivo infection of cells impeding heme. Just an affinity of viral surface proteins with heme groups that makes a porphyrin intermediate that steals the iron, presumably in vitro.

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52917 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:40 pm to
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dont go taking 10grams of vitamin C a day because you think that's what youre supposed to do please


I’d be tempted to be an a-hole and tell people to make sure they drink a lot of vitamin D enriched whole milk with it to make sure they absorb all of the vitamin C.


But I don’t feel like that much of an a-hole today.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21808 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:58 pm to
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Zinc, d3 and chagga mushrooms (tea or capsules) are Very important to protect you.


What essential oils do I need to diffuse to make this combination most effective?
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5355 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 6:36 am to
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Thanks for the CVS info.


Amazon.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 6:43 am to
I still waiting on the results of the "Pee Pee in my Coke Test".
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