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re: New Orleans violent crime- is it possible to fix it?

Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:30 am to
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:30 am to
Paid Sterilization. Everyone knows it's what needs to happen but no one has the balls to propose it.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 9:30 am
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95095 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:32 am to
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A lot of the music and culture promotes slinging dope and treating women as hoes. Kids are raised bumping that music daily. The lifestyle is glorified when it needs to be condemned by city "leaders". Fatass Gary Chambers could actually make something of himself if he went at the real issues. Won't happen I know


I'm not sure why this is downvoted. It's part of the reason and it's part of the culture of low income people. I mean, it's black AND white people all doing the same shite. Why do people ignore this fact?

Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18342 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:40 am to
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Let's don't forget about the politicians and community leaders, local and national activists who preach the litany of "it's not your fault so you can't be held responsible," "you can't do it without help from the government," "the racist white man is the real problem."


Speaking of that, I heard Rev. Al Sharpton will be in town this weekend.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:45 am to
Everyone knows who commits the crimes, but publically saying it gets you branded a racist, and there is nothing worse these days than being called a racist.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26445 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:20 am to
Bring in the military is the only way.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:49 am to
But they vote dem! Gimme dat free shite
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5437 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:02 am to
Drastically reduce welfare. Remove incentives for having kids you don't want to raise. In 20 years, problem solved.
Posted by SMU Tiger Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
502 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:19 am to
Yes, exactly. Any common sense attempt to rid the problem will lead to you being labeled RACIST and cast out of society as a pariah! Probably better to just increase taxes to the point where you move away and stay away.

Fricking Dems are either stupid, evil or both.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:24 pm to
Thanks for finding those numbers, very alarming.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13190 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:40 pm to
This thread could get people banned. The answer is obvious but can't be spoken.
Posted by NikeShox
Toula Baw
Member since Sep 2016
1251 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:54 pm to
no
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59388 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:59 pm to
Need to follow NYC and do what they did.

They won't though because that makes sense.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59346 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:14 pm to
Asians holding it down
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:12 pm to
This is not a black problem or a Caucasian problem. It caused by people who want to be lazy, frick all day, duck responsibility, and blame others for their problems. A color of a skin has nothing to do with crime. It is a mindset of not wanting to work for something and either getting high on drugs or getting high on sex. When the money isn't around, humans will frick others to get it regardless of consequences. No one wants to set goals and put forth effort. If you can't value your own life, you certainly won't care for someone else's life. Kids beget kids with no resources earned to provide for.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 6:18 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:17 pm to
it can be fixed with a week long version of the movie "purge" but that is about it.

maybe do one or two days of that in BR as well
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3700 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:36 pm to
Cure? Remember the movie Gangster Squad about the secret group with L. A. P. D.?

There is your answer. It won't happen in NOLA due to too much warm and fuzzy shite and coddling criminals, some of who are on the force.

You could take a squad of about 50 men, turn them loose on the city, back their asses up, let them do their thing.

Key is paying them well enough so they don't fall into the corruption trap.
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

LSUTANGERINE
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:53 pm to
Keep expanding NOPD to 1700 officers. Until we hit 1500, you won't be able to meaningfully conduct proactive patrols and use community policing. Once you're fully staffed, you should have 6-8 officers per district on foot for at least half of their shifts. Talking to people, being part of the community, building trust, and most importantly, being so common that thugs can't differentiate casual conversations with cops from a citizen giving information about who the problems are.

The traffic unit needs to be fully restored (it doesnt exist at all) and staffed. They not only handle accidents that are currently taking patrol units off the streets, but they conduct traffic stops, which is hands down the most valuable way to pick up the wanted felons.

DA's office diversion needs to be fully funded to throw as many first and second non violent offenders at as possible through it. Keeps the trial attorneys from having to deal with anything other than crimes of violence crimes and triples/quads who aren't getting the message.

In the interim, the City needs to beg the feds, DA and OPSO to throw together a task force similar to what the MAG unit did with gangs. It's no mystery as to who your 30 biggest targets are, there just aren't any resources with any individual agency to actually target anyone, they all are so understaffed that they're reactive. These are not rocket scientists, and they constantly commit "minor" felonies that can be multiple billed to put them away for 20- life. Combine forces, have NOPD and FBI/USMS on street and surveillance, OPSO gathering jail intelligence and on the phones, and DA /US Atty trying them. When you take the worst 20-30 off the streets at once, you've taken the people who are responsible for 2-5 murders each, and you've eliminated half your murder problem. This is what occurred when 3NG and the 110ers went down in 2012-13.

Of course, it's going to take parenting to stop the next generation from replacing those who were taken out, but you have to start somewhere.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:00 pm to
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Just to put some rough numbers to it, black males between the age of 16-28 make up less than 7% of the Nola population but account for an incredibly disproportionate amount of the violent crime.

Seeing those specific numbers really puts things into perspective.

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