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re: New Orleans is losing over 70% of its water supply due to leaks
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:15 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:15 pm to fightin tigers
Bluefield analysts Megan Bondar, who reviewed hundreds of water systems to estimate the national average last year, said New Orlean’s loss rate is among the highest, if not the highest she has encountered.
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:18 pm to Cycledude
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Bluefield analysts Megan Bondar, who reviewed hundreds of water systems to estimate the national average last year, said New Orlean’s loss rate is among the highest, if not the highest she has encountered.
Same city that had broken pipes in a newly built airport
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:21 pm to Roy Curado
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How about we spend time understanding and fixing our current problems so other needs can be addressed?
New Orleans water comes from the river. The only risk of water running out is treatment speed.
There are no specs on data center water quality so in theory they could pull from one of the many water sources.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:22 pm to fightin tigers
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70
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That is a really high number.
Brother, I know numbers way higher than that.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:22 pm to Cycledude
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yet 70% is wasted to leaking pipes in the ground.
Sounds like an opening statement for some BS reason to raise rates.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:25 pm to _Hurricane_
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But data centers = bad. How about we spend time understanding and fixing our current problems so other needs can be addressed?
“New Orleans loses water so that means arguments against data centers have been refuted!”
Genius of the OT.
It was a poor argument, but it does somewhat point at the disconnect the public has on water issues and what is actually a concern vs what isn't.
Here in Florida the public is SUPER opposed to using treated reclaimed water that is pumped to a manmade wetland, it gets filtered in the wetland for a while by natural processes, then is pumped to recharge some drying up aquifers that feed rivers that are also drying up. Its literally one of the best and cheapest ways we can do something like that and they kill it because "reclaimed water is icky" or something.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:26 pm to fightin tigers
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New Orleans water comes from the river. The only risk of water running out is treatment speed.
Great news for their polymer vendor
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:27 pm to Shexter
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Sounds like an opening statement for some BS reason to raise rates.
Well yeah if you're paying to produce something and 70% of it never reaches a meter that is going to raise rates a metric frick ton from what they should be
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:27 pm to Shexter
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The Sewerage and Water Board of New Orleans loses roughly 70% to 76% of its treated, clean drinking water before it reaches homes and businesses. This massive waste stems from aging underground pipes, dynamic shifting soils, inaccurate meters, and water provided free to public entities under old laws
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Accounting and Free Water: Estimates include physical leaks alongside unmetered water, billing errors, and legally mandated free water for public buildings
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:28 pm to Cycledude
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Amazing to me that it’s gotten this bad.
It's a major city run solely by democrats, I'm surprised that 30% efficiency is actually achievable.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:32 pm to Shexter
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aging underground pipes
Well literally everywhere is dealing with that and the national average is 14%
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dynamic shifting soils
That would result in a higher rate than the 14% average, not 70%
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inaccurate meters
Everywhere is dealing with this.
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water provided free to public entities under old laws
They should be able to get a number on exactly how much that is and should report it to the taxpayers.
Sounds like they need district metering pronto to figure out where the issues lie so they can focus on resiliency for those areas.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:33 pm to Shexter
The problem is they don’t have enough money to fix the problems. New Orleans residents already pay one of the nation’s highest water rates, so they don’t want to raise rates even higher.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:36 pm to Shexter
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Accounting and Free Water: Estimates include physical leaks alongside unmetered water, billing errors, and legally mandated free water for public buildings
When they did the Bourbon Street repairs a few years ago they found a bunch of unmetered and "illegal" taps.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:41 pm to Cycledude
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The problem is they don’t have enough money to fix the problems. New Orleans residents already pay one of the nation’s highest water rates, so they don’t want to raise rates even higher.
Is it shocking to anyone that Democrats can't balance the budget and also literally CHOOSE not to address problems?
Teedy needed that 18th vacation of the year, year over year over year. Just a grifting society dealing with grifting problems.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:28 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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At least the soil beneath New Orleans is rock solid and surely able to handle pipes leaking water 24/7 under the buildings.
Or, hear me out, it’s a feature to combat subsidence.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:36 pm to fightin tigers
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Most municipal systems are around 50%
Where are you getting this from? With properly trained people it should be less than 20%
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:38 pm to TimeOutdoors
Research of major municipal systems while researching data center usage. 30%-50% seemed pretty usual.
Lumping all muni systems together might be generalizing too much.
Lumping all muni systems together might be generalizing too much.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:56 pm to fightin tigers
I have been around the business for a long time and have my operator license in 4 states.
I have worked on several projects replacing lines and installing insitu liners. These projects also included training maintenance staff on distribution line maintenance and how to properly open/close a valve. You always hear horror stories of mayors getting rid of staff and hiring new people and damaging the distribution system because of water hammer due to opening and closing the valves incorrectly. You can do major damage to a system pretty quickly.
I think most operators would be pretty upset if they are 30-50% leakage. As oddly as it sounds, major municipalities are often more efficient than smaller/rural systems.
Having said all that, my experience is not with older cities like New Orleans, Chicago, etc. While I expect they have more challenges, I don't expect it should ever be this high.
I have worked on several projects replacing lines and installing insitu liners. These projects also included training maintenance staff on distribution line maintenance and how to properly open/close a valve. You always hear horror stories of mayors getting rid of staff and hiring new people and damaging the distribution system because of water hammer due to opening and closing the valves incorrectly. You can do major damage to a system pretty quickly.
I think most operators would be pretty upset if they are 30-50% leakage. As oddly as it sounds, major municipalities are often more efficient than smaller/rural systems.
Having said all that, my experience is not with older cities like New Orleans, Chicago, etc. While I expect they have more challenges, I don't expect it should ever be this high.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:59 pm to Cycledude
But charging residents 500% of actual used. That was my experience
Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:14 pm to CitizenK
quote:your right it shouldn’t be this high but it is!
While I expect they have more challenges, I don't expect it should ever be this high.
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