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re: New Houses - why don't they have real fire places inside now?

Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:09 am to
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18466 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:09 am to
I did a 6 foot linear fireplace in the family room and a regular wood burning fireplace outside on the patio. I light the gas fireplace pretty much every night weather permitting but I have yet to light the patio fireplace and we've been in the house 5 months already.

You can't beat the convenience of just pressing a button to get the gas fireplace going though.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5498 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:09 am to
I just recently bought a house with a wood burning fireplace with blowers. Love it. I wish I had more fireplaces in my house.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33751 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:12 am to
Because Mary Poppins came out a long time ago. No chimney sweepers around these days.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108738 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:12 am to
I have a gas fireplace in mine. I usually use the logs in a bag and I have also used real wood in the past.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:12 am to
We have a wood stove in our house out of an old train. It's pretty cool but puts off way too much heat if you're not careful. It's pretty efficient if you use it the way it was intended but I like to leave the doors open so it burns real hot and real fast. If you close the doors and choke it down it will burn all night. Picked up another one recently, considering putting it in the bedroom or master bath.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:15 am to
I'm on the fence here.

We have a wood burning stove but a problem with the vent pipe and for the 2 small pieces we need it will cost $350.

We also have a double sided fireplace that looks nice but haven't bought screens or glass doors for either side yet and the one fire set lit didn't draft properly fit several minutes resulting in the whole house smelling like smoke for 2 days.

I love zoning out to s cracking wood fire so I'm willing to spend the time and money to sort both out
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40368 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:21 am to
I would never put ventless in a house.

Kinda surprised they are still allowed, tbh.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3344 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:22 am to
Yall are missing the main reason.

Woodburning fireplaces were only ever relevant in homes without heat. Think about what it does in a modern house. It sucks in air that you have already heated for combustion, heats it more and sends it out your house. Other than a small amount of radiant heat, the net result is a higher energy bill, and higher construction costs.

A ventless fireplace, in comparison, actually releases all of the heat from combustion in your house. That's why they arw actually considered gas heaters.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3344 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:23 am to
quote:

I would never put ventless in a house.

Kinda surprised they are still allowed, tbh.


It's no different than having a gas stove.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40368 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:25 am to
I disagree, the btus would have to be much greater with a fireplace.

I researched them pretty thoroughly.

They just don't make sense, especially in a well-insulated home.
Posted by chadg
The Avoyelles Parish
Member since Dec 2007
2878 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

And unfortunately brick Mason's that actually know how to lay brick for a fireplace, which consists of fire brick with a brick veneer are a dying breed.

I have a full brick fireplace, I use it and love it. Probably a cord of wood a year goes through it.

As someone above said Americans are lazy.


This.. On cold weeks, we will have a fire at least 3 or so evenings a week. It really is very little work at all.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40368 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Woodburning fireplaces were only ever relevant in homes without heat.


This is true, obviously, fireplaces are now more for aesthetics.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Woodburning fireplaces were only ever relevant in homes without heat.


If the wife says, let's light a fire, do you know what that means? It means you light a fire and put some soft music on, I'm saying yes...TVs can't do that shite.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3344 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:29 am to
quote:

I disagree, the btus would have to be much greater with a fireplace.


I'm not saying they replace an HVAC heating system, merely how they function as far as purpose.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3344 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:



If the wife says, let's light a fire, do you know what that means?


It means I hit the button, and gas logs ignite, lol. And then...brown chicken brown cow.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I'm not saying they replace an HVAC heating system, merely how they function as far as purpose.


in my case the wood stove does exactly that.

its in the corner of this room on the right (you can barely see the pad its on in this pic)



and saves a baJILLION dollars on propane. one log will make this room toasty warm for hours and the propane-HVAC on this side of the house never even turns on.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62180 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:05 am to
About the most inefficient way to heat a home.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:19 am to
quote:

This.. On cold weeks, we will have a fire at least 3 or so evenings a week. It really is very little work at all.
yup...also comfortable knowing that if you lose electricity,you can still stay warm.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:24 am to
quote:

About the most inefficient way to heat a home.
see my post above you

Also a huge difference in a glass enclosed damper controlled fireplace and one using a screen that eats logs like crazy.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3733 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Plus with the open floor plans many homes have and a fire place forces many to put the TV above the mantle, which I dislike.



12'+ ceilings with a TV above the mantel hurts you neck. One day people are going to wonder WTF they did this.

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