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re: New Houses - why don't they have real fire places inside now?

Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5633 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:31 am to
Cost and convenience, however they give you the ambiance and if you add the fan to it can provide pretty substantial heat to a large area.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:36 am to
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About the most inefficient way to heat a home.
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see my post above you


It is a relatively inefficient way to heat your entire house. Unlike a central heating system that pumps hot air into your house creating a pressure differential pushing air "out" of your house, a fireplace or wood stove will create airflow into your house. The hot air going up your chimney draws air in. It's why it's sometimes easier to get a fire started by opening a window and letting the air flow easier. Drawing in cold air will actually cool off the house in some instances. It will heat up the area around the fire, but other rooms may actually get colder. I still like fireplaces much more than running the heater, but it can be highly inefficient.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99042 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:38 am to
I'm about to build a house


I will not have a wood burning fireplace


I am lazy
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:21 am to
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It is a relatively inefficient way to heat your entire house. Unlike a central heating system that pumps hot air into your house creating a pressure differential pushing air "out" of your house, a fireplace or wood stove will create airflow into your house. The hot air going up your chimney draws air in. It's why it's sometimes easier to get a fire started by opening a window and letting the air flow easier. Drawing in cold air will actually cool off the house in some instances. It will heat up the area around the fire, but other rooms may actually get colder. I still like fireplaces much more than running the heater, but it can be highly inefficient.


nice response. i was trying to understand the dynamics at work here and why i have to put newspaper on TOP of my logs in my 2 sided fireplace to get it to start 'drawing' up the chimney.

that helps explain things.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18143 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:30 am to
The last one I had, you had to open a door or window so you could create a draft. It defeated the purpose. New homes are built so tight that they don't serve a purpose.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112587 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:31 am to
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Convenience
This makes no sense. My parents fireplace is real, but it has a gas starter. So if they wanted they could put the fake logs, but the can also use real wood and then cut the gas once it lights. I have no idea why this isnt what is put in all new houses
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5376 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:48 am to
I have a gas metal insert fireplace with fake logs. I could burn real logs but chose not to. The fake ones hold a lot of heat when they get warmed up.

I love it, but it's more an ambience thing for us. We don't use it for heating really although it does put off heat. I have a fire pit outside on the patio for burning real wood fires.

I think it's a good compromise, however I think I will always have a house with a fireplace.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:53 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32393 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:58 am to
My wife wouldnt live in a house without a real wood burning fireplace. I love them as well.

Im in NC so we get to use our much of the winter. Nothing like a nice fire on Saturday watching football and drinking a few beers.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13764 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:15 pm to
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I have a full brick fireplace, I use it and love it. Probably a cord of wood a year goes through it.


Same here. We do a fire pretty much anytime it gets under 50 degrees out which has been a lot lately

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As someone above said Americans are lazy.


I just at gas fireplaces.
Posted by PokerPastime
Member since Jan 2009
2470 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:30 pm to
Most spec builders aren't going to waste the money on a true masonry fireplace or isokern. Custom builders will put them in if its spec'd. Hope that answers your question
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:36 pm to
Seems silly for homes in Scottsdale or Phoenix to have them considering they would only be used for like a month out of the year. But people that have them use them...we have to have "no burn days" to keep people using them (or firepits) to reduce the amount of air pollution we already have in the air here.


I lived in an apartment complex here that had a wood burning fireplace. Never used it once and it just took up space on a wall that I could have used to place furniture at.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:38 pm to
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I just at gas fireplaces.


Why? In South Louisiana a fire place is almost useless. Folks in this area go with a gas fire place for mostly decorative purposes.

I at the fact you can't understand something so simple
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:38 pm to
doesnt it get pretty chilly at night in the desert?
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:42 pm to
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I have no idea why this isnt what is put in all new houses


You likely have no idea about many things in life.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99042 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:44 pm to
probably for looks more than usage
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:46 pm to
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doesnt it get pretty chilly at night in the desert?


I mean it can get down into the 30s during the winter at night. But that is usually for like a month. Then it will be lows in 50s/60s the rest of the usual winter months, maybe 40s as well.


The population here is a lot of transplants...many from colder states. So I wonder if those that want fireplaces are originally from colder states and it's more tradition to them.


I mean, it sounds cool at first "Oh, it has a fireplace"...but then you never actually use it.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Why? In South Louisiana a fire place is almost useless. Folks in this area go with a gas fire place for mostly decorative purposes.
speak for yourself...we and almost everybody i know with a fireplace uses the shite out of it when it gets cold....i see nothing "decorative" with the fake gas logs..the fact that they put out heat and aren't messy is probably why most use them.
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2727 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:55 pm to
My company builds 85+ houses a year and they all come standard with wood burning fireplaces.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99042 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:58 pm to
We'll have one in living area(gas), one in master bedroom(gas) and then an outside one(wood) in the new house
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:01 pm to
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yellowfin

I'm about to build a house


I will not have a wood burning fireplace


I am lazy



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yellowfin
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an outside one(wood) in the new house

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