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re: New Corvette delayed because it's too powerful, report says, twisting frame
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:16 pm to cajuncarguy
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:16 pm to cajuncarguy
No six tail lights no care.
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:18 pm to MorbidTheClown
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bring back the round tail lights
A lot of corvette owners are just like 911 owners. They hate the new corvette because it's not the old corvette. When they got rid of the flip up headlights, I thought there was going to be an all out riot
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:20 pm to FlyinTiger93
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Wanna play with the big boys, and copy Ferrari's design, then copy Ferrari's use of carbon fiber. Stop being a cheap arse, GM.
More bang for your buck...
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:21 pm to LNCHBOX
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Gotta cut the costs somewhere.
And it shows.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:22 pm to FlyinTiger93
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Wanna play with the big boys, and copy Ferrari's design, then copy Ferrari's use of carbon fiber. Stop being a cheap arse, GM.
Most production Ferrari's use an aluminum spaceframe.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:24 pm to cajuncarguy
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Carroll Shelby design the original Cobra with an aluminum body he used a steel tube frame for strength because the engines he was going to use had more power than the original AC sports cars they were designed around
This is my issue with engineers. I've built tube frames for buggies with nothing more than a pencil and paper.
No modeling. No failures. And maybe 10% over use of materials.
It isn't rocket science.
Suspension and downforce is where wizardry comes into play.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:26 pm to X123F45
If the car is warping due to torque I'm betting around a track it is going to be more than a handful. The rigidity probably isn't the best frame/body wise.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:29 pm to Obtuse1
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100% design
Agree. Frame flex and twist are nothing new to Corvettes. The first year C3 ('68) the frames flexed and twisted under acceleration. Frame gussets were added in 69 and the problem was cured. C4's with a new frame design experienced the same issues under loads. This is nothing new, they have been down this road before.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:33 pm to Traveler
1000 HP with a rear wheel drive platform?
What kind of tires are you going to need to connect? The CTS-V blew the M5 away as far as HP, but loses to the current M5 0-60 because its not AWD.
Just wonder how this will play out for GM, I think its great they are taking a shot at the supercar market with this offering, but I'm a little skeptical of how it will land.
What kind of tires are you going to need to connect? The CTS-V blew the M5 away as far as HP, but loses to the current M5 0-60 because its not AWD.
Just wonder how this will play out for GM, I think its great they are taking a shot at the supercar market with this offering, but I'm a little skeptical of how it will land.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:35 pm to Traveler
The last stingray (C7) was the most rigid chassis ever used on a corvette. Guess what all you know it alls...it was aluminum. And, to boot, the convertible chassis was stronger than any steel chassis hardtop 'vette ever made.
This "news" of the car twisting this chassis is a "subtle brag" (SWIDT?) to the output of the twin turbo 1000+ horsepower bolted behind the cockpit. It is the twin turbo V8 version they're driving that is distorting the chassis.
Oh, and all the supercar manufacturers were shaking in their boots at the last front engine 'vette. This one will shame them all when they shore it up.
Haters gonna hate.
This "news" of the car twisting this chassis is a "subtle brag" (SWIDT?) to the output of the twin turbo 1000+ horsepower bolted behind the cockpit. It is the twin turbo V8 version they're driving that is distorting the chassis.
Oh, and all the supercar manufacturers were shaking in their boots at the last front engine 'vette. This one will shame them all when they shore it up.
Haters gonna hate.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:35 pm to upgrayedd
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When they got rid of the flip up headlights, I thought there was going to be an all out riot
They loved them and the wiper pop up door and fiber optics till they stopped working, then they cussed every GM engineer on the planet
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:37 pm to cajuncarguy
It’s going to look terrible. Should have developed a new line under a new name if they wanted a mid-engined hypercar rather than morph the Vette. I’m not a fan of modern Vettes, they died after 69 in my eyes so I don’t really give a shyt. Just an observation and opinion..
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:37 pm to fightin tigers
Bingo. Just like the current vette, the torque is going to make the car slightly unsettled.
The Camaro has become a shockingly fun platform.
The turbo 1le is breathtakingly good.
And it's so cheap you can throw 10k at it to make it handle even better.
The Camaro has become a shockingly fun platform.
The turbo 1le is breathtakingly good.
And it's so cheap you can throw 10k at it to make it handle even better.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:42 pm to browl
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Haters gonna hate
Not sure where you are getting this from. I've been around Corvettes for a long time and not afraid to point out deficiencies as well as the positive areas of the vehicles.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:43 pm to X123F45
This is the 2nd delay of this car, right? Seems like it was supposed to make its debut at Paris late year to show up on Euro turf, but was already pushed to Detroit which it missed.
Haven't been on it as much since a thread I posted last year.
ETA: damn, apparently I posted that thread in September 2017.
Haven't been on it as much since a thread I posted last year.
ETA: damn, apparently I posted that thread in September 2017.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:46 pm to browl
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Oh, and all the supercar manufacturers were shaking in their boots at the last front engine 'vette. This one will shame them all when they shore it up.
Not many people cross shop a Vette and exotics.
I also wouldn't call it a subtle brag because I guarantee no Corvette engineers are happy about this. When major issue like this pop up on mules it is always a major time problem. Add to this issue the electrical problems they have been having and it just pushes the introduction back further.
The Corvette is a major engineering feat since it has to b cheap but put some serious numbers down to appeal to its fans, most of its competition doesn't have that constraint.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:55 pm to Traveler
Wiper pop up door and fiber optics ??
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:59 pm to cajuncarguy
Looks like some of the first Acura NSX
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:00 pm to madmaxvol
Why is that 737 in your graphic not on fire?
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:02 pm to Airpower
Yep. Early C3's. Optics were used to monitor headlights, tail lights, license plate lamp and front signal lights.
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