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re: Nevada Cops Use Civil Forfeiture To Steal a Veteran’s Life Savings
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:26 am to dgnx6
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:26 am to dgnx6
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I’m generally against the war on drugs but opioids are destroying people.
Again I don’t buy what the article is selling me.
For all I know this dude was selling pressed pills and killed people with them.
A dude gets laid off so he decides to travel around with cash in his car instead of oh idk, getting another fricking job? I know when I’m saving to buy a house I just put it in my car.
The DOJ oversees the asset forfeiture program and they have no problem going after you.
I think we all agree we have a problem with the federal government and how they operate.
Two things can be true. This guy is shady and the government is incompetent.
"being shady" isn't against the law. He was not even charged with a crime. Cops just using their discretion on who to steal from is such an egregious civil rights violation that I'm angry I have to type this out to explain it to you.
How this hasn't hit the Supreme Court yet, I don't know.
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:46 am to Napoleon
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I get nervous flying with over $1000 cash because I always feel like it will get seized.
It happened to this guy, who did fund raising for Ron Paul
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Security screeners had a problem, not with the box but with the cash inside it, about $4,700. They demanded he explain where he got it. Trouble ensued when he politely declined to do so. He thought he was within his rights, he told me.
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Transportation Security Administration officers escorted Mr. Bierfeldt to a nearby interview room, where he was interrogated for more than 20 minutes by screeners and then by the police officers who were soon summoned.
“What do you do for a living?” a T.S.A. officer named Ron Bardmass asked Mr. Bierfeldt.
“Am I legally required to tell you that?” asked Mr. Bierfeldt, who lives in Virginia and was flying home.
And then, according to a transcript of the encounter that was later released as part of a lawsuit, Mr. Bardmass persisted, “You may not be legally required to tell me that, but you will be legally required to tell it to the police officer who comes to talk to you.” He added, “I’m just trying to ask some questions to figure out what this is about so I can get you on your plane.” But, he went on, using an expletive, Mr. Bierfeldt seemed to want to play games “and I’m not going to play.”
Mr. Bardmass later said in court papers that Mr. Bierfeldt’s “evasive behavior” led him to call the airport police to help sort out “possible evidence of criminal activity.”
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The transcript of Mr. Bierfeldt’s recording shows that the officers, evidently unaware that Mr. Bierfeldt was recording the session, threatened Mr. Bierfeldt with federal arrest for declining to account for the cash. Mr. Bierfeldt kept asking politely whether he was legally required to answer. This intransigence irritated the officers.
It is not illegal, by the way, to carry a large amount of cash while traveling. (The law does require cash amounts over $10,000 to be declared on international trips.) And as the American Civil Liberties Union argued in a lawsuit filed in June against the T.S.A. in the Bierfeldt case, screeners exceeded their authority in detaining him and demanding explanations once Mr. Bierfeldt had cleared standard checkpoint security inspection.
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Mr. Bierfeldt, it turns out, was carrying the money because he was returning home from a regional conference of Campaign for Liberty, a group that supports Ron Paul, the former presidential candidate. Mr. Bierfeldt, the group‘s development director, said he often traveled from political events with donations and money from the sale of T-shirts and bumper stickers.
CNBC
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:50 am to N2cars
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When you incentive theft, you get thievery.
That's the first problem.
Drug dealers love CAF, b/c they can relinquish the goods in exchange for all charges dropped.
Cops keep the money and cars, drug dealers walk.
Win/win.
Just a cost of doing bidness...
Then cops found out they could steal as much as they wanted with zero repercussions under the guise of the "war in drugs" lol.
I've made a thread on here before, but this podcast is pretty wild. Its about former N.O. DEA Chad Scott. Dude was an absolute pro at holding snitches by the balls while forcing them to give him cash, brand new vehicles, etc to avoid prison time.
Betrayal on the Bayou
article:
https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-new-orleans-sentencing-us-drug-enforcement-administration-83cdfbdc94ef01a4c4f312f237f22e74
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:59 am to BPTiger
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Full disclosure, he was structuring his deposits. But that’s not a crime.
Yes it is. It's a felony punishable with up to 5 years in prison. It shouldn't be, but it is.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 9:07 am
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:15 am to CatfishJohn
CAF was supposed to be a good thing when it was instituted and most people agreed with th concept, on both sides of the aisle.
Unfortunately, like what the road to hell is paved with, local yokels started using it to steal, first from drug dealers, whom they usually let walk, then from honest citizens.
If your car is paid off, nothing prevents them from planting a pound of weed, and siezing your vehicle.
And of course, the standby of "drug residue" on your money. Lol.
Unfortunately, like what the road to hell is paved with, local yokels started using it to steal, first from drug dealers, whom they usually let walk, then from honest citizens.
If your car is paid off, nothing prevents them from planting a pound of weed, and siezing your vehicle.
And of course, the standby of "drug residue" on your money. Lol.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:15 am to boxcarbarney
I’m generally pro law enforcement but frick those mother frickers.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:17 am to Funky Tide 8
Quite the RICO enterprise ol baw had going.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:22 am to boxcarbarney
I don't hate cops buuut oink oink oink
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:58 am to boxcarbarney
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I don’t know if he’s seeking monetary compensation, but if so, I hope he bankrupts the state.
Punitive damages should be an order of magnitude more than the dumb asses tried to steal.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:44 pm to boxcarbarney
So thats infuriating to read. People wear $5000+ pieces of jewelry on planes and don't get that level of legal questioning.
On another note, this seems to be a case of "if you just do what the guys with guns say, they will let you go if you make a donation".
How did we get here?
On another note, this seems to be a case of "if you just do what the guys with guns say, they will let you go if you make a donation".
How did we get here?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:46 pm to LSU Tiger Jason
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This website loves cops. They would let pig cops frick their wives and then ask “does it please the crown?”
If you think the baws around here are letting just a regular city cop frick their wives, think again.
They have to be at least be a state trooper.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:54 pm to boxcarbarney
Dang, taking these people's life savings.
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shite move by the cops, but in this day and age, why not just transfer the money electronically to a bank where you are planning to move to, take some out for travel expenses and simply avoid the hassle of dealing with assholes along the way.
No way in hell I'd have my "life savings" in the trunk of my car or anywhere else in my possession when traveling. That's just waiting for crap to happen-----------------AND IT DID................
No way in hell I'd have my "life savings" in the trunk of my car or anywhere else in my possession when traveling. That's just waiting for crap to happen-----------------AND IT DID................
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:59 pm to Napoleon
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I get nervous flying with over $1000 cash because I always feel like it will get seized.
I've flown with 5K cash multiple times to Vegas.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:01 pm to N2cars
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CAF was supposed to be a good thing when it was instituted
Not by anyone with an ounce of morality.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:02 pm to dgnx6
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Dang, taking these people's life savings.
I can post irrelevant links as well.
If you are equating homeless encampments with CAF, you are more of a moron than I thought you were, and I already thought you were a big fricking moron.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I was just giving context as to how it was sold to the public.
It obviously has been abused to the point that the public hates it.
Numerous cops and departments have lied cheated, and stolen assets.
It should be abolished, but it won't be.
It obviously has been abused to the point that the public hates it.
Numerous cops and departments have lied cheated, and stolen assets.
It should be abolished, but it won't be.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:18 pm to boxcarbarney
How did this guy save 100k (I'm envious) and why is he driving around with it in his trunk?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:34 pm to boxcarbarney
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prolonged the stop and asked a series of questions about Stephen’s life and travels
never, EVER talk to the cops
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