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re: Negatives of owning a Tesla?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
In this thread will be a lot of country folk who can't understand why anyone would want an EV. They can't wrap their mind around the fact that people who live in the city may never drive more than 30 miles at once but it may take an hour to commute 15 miles for work. And ICE engines are just burning up gas sitting in traffic.
They are just like the city folk in LA and NYC who can't understand why anyone would need a big 4x4 truck.
They are different sides of the same coin. Most people lack perspective and can't see things from any other point of view than their own narrow little world they live in.
For the record I have a crew cab long bed pickup truck with a V8 and wouldn't trade it for anything because I do a lot of stuff outdoors and need to haul stuff. But I can understand the appeal of a very efficient car for in-town use.
They are just like the city folk in LA and NYC who can't understand why anyone would need a big 4x4 truck.
They are different sides of the same coin. Most people lack perspective and can't see things from any other point of view than their own narrow little world they live in.
For the record I have a crew cab long bed pickup truck with a V8 and wouldn't trade it for anything because I do a lot of stuff outdoors and need to haul stuff. But I can understand the appeal of a very efficient car for in-town use.
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Other than archaic, flawed battery technology, not enough copper on earth to meet the needs, and not enough electricity to charge EV's and run your home a/c, they are awesome.
They should apply for a bit part on the "Not Ready for Primetime Players" show.
They should apply for a bit part on the "Not Ready for Primetime Players" show.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:20 pm to billjamin
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billjamin
Don't get this guy wound or that chick shel.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:21 pm to TDTOM
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Don't get this guy wound or that chick shel.
I'm sorry I scare people with facts and don't regurgitate shite I read on Twitter.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:21 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I have a Model 3 Long Range, got it a year ago. Only negatives I've experienced are slightly higher tire wear on the factory tires than I'm use to since it has such high acceleration and I have a lead foot. Only maintenance has been rotating tires and changing a cabin filter (Tesla came to my house to change it, pretty nice).
If you don't have a way to charge at your house, I'd not recommend it. However, if you can, you wake up with a full "tank" everyday. I spend about $40 extra on my electric bill per month, that's it. Install a dryer outlet and you're good to go.
Road trips are awesome since it drives most of it by itself on Autopilot and the nav will automatically plan your stops at chargers. You might take about 30-40 minutes longer on like a 7 hour trip since you stop about every 3 hours to charge, but that's usually when I need to eat or piss anyway. My stops on trips are usually about 15-20 minutes per charging stop.
I look forward to driving it everyday.
No regrets, highly recommend.
EDIT: For everyone saying "it's expensive to replace the batteries" there's an 8 year, 120K mile battery warranty so you're pretty covered. Also, you can get a Model 3 brand new for about 36K after factoring in the tax credit. They're not as expensive as they were in the past.
If you don't have a way to charge at your house, I'd not recommend it. However, if you can, you wake up with a full "tank" everyday. I spend about $40 extra on my electric bill per month, that's it. Install a dryer outlet and you're good to go.
Road trips are awesome since it drives most of it by itself on Autopilot and the nav will automatically plan your stops at chargers. You might take about 30-40 minutes longer on like a 7 hour trip since you stop about every 3 hours to charge, but that's usually when I need to eat or piss anyway. My stops on trips are usually about 15-20 minutes per charging stop.
I look forward to driving it everyday.
No regrets, highly recommend.
EDIT: For everyone saying "it's expensive to replace the batteries" there's an 8 year, 120K mile battery warranty so you're pretty covered. Also, you can get a Model 3 brand new for about 36K after factoring in the tax credit. They're not as expensive as they were in the past.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:22 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Tesla's are fine. Just be making parallel car payments to a bank account to pay for replacement batteries.
The average life of Tesla batteries are between 300k and 500K miles.
Average results show a loss of 5% power per 50k miles
That means you'll have 85% of the range at 150K miles than you had driving off the lot.
That's not bad for most owners.
I don't understand why people think it is smarter to own ICE vehicles because of the replacement costs for batteries. people act like they don't spend $6K-$8K for a transmission and $500 for the annual maintenance of ICE vehicles
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:22 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I have a Tesla 3 and love it. I save a ton on fuel and maintenance costs, and I own it for that reason only. This isn’t some naive environmental crusade by me; that shite is dumb.
Here’s my take. I bought a used one relative cheap to test and see if I like it. I had plenty of trepidations and didn’t foresee myself enjoying it much. Now I don’t want to drive anything else. It truly is that enjoyable to drive, but it did take a few weeks for me to adjust to it and get to that point.
Negatives:
- don’t forget to plug it in or you can be fricked. If you have a tendency to forgetfulness it’s not for you
- you need to use your dryer plug or another nema to get adequate charging. If not then you’re relegated to paid chargers and you now have more costs and time commitments
- don’t invest in a fast charger. It’s not necessary at all. Mine charges to full in 8 hours with the dryer outlet (get a dryer buddy; it shuts off charging when dryer is on to prevent overload… huge benefit)
- many of the autopilot features are great and game changers, but they are still very buggy. Be aware at all times
- don’t do road trips unless you are ready to make stops for charging. Tesla network is well built, but you still have time commitments. It will get worse once they open their chargers up to all EVs
Overall it’s a great vehicle IF you are aware of your limitations when using it and it is acceptable. We are still a long ways away from full EV integration, so it very well could set you back.
I think it’s a wonderful commuter vehicle but that’s it right now.
Here’s my take. I bought a used one relative cheap to test and see if I like it. I had plenty of trepidations and didn’t foresee myself enjoying it much. Now I don’t want to drive anything else. It truly is that enjoyable to drive, but it did take a few weeks for me to adjust to it and get to that point.
Negatives:
- don’t forget to plug it in or you can be fricked. If you have a tendency to forgetfulness it’s not for you
- you need to use your dryer plug or another nema to get adequate charging. If not then you’re relegated to paid chargers and you now have more costs and time commitments
- don’t invest in a fast charger. It’s not necessary at all. Mine charges to full in 8 hours with the dryer outlet (get a dryer buddy; it shuts off charging when dryer is on to prevent overload… huge benefit)
- many of the autopilot features are great and game changers, but they are still very buggy. Be aware at all times
- don’t do road trips unless you are ready to make stops for charging. Tesla network is well built, but you still have time commitments. It will get worse once they open their chargers up to all EVs
Overall it’s a great vehicle IF you are aware of your limitations when using it and it is acceptable. We are still a long ways away from full EV integration, so it very well could set you back.
I think it’s a wonderful commuter vehicle but that’s it right now.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:22 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Poor build quality, and months waiting for replacement parts.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:23 pm to LSU alum wannabe
None. Owning an electric vehicle is the pinnacle of human civilization rivaled only by the Pantheon.
-OT tards
-OT tards
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:25 pm to Tigeralum2008
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I don't understand why people think it is smarter to own ICE vehicles because of the replacement costs for batteries. people act like they don't spend $6K-$8K for a transmission and $500 for the annual maintenance of ICE vehicles
I wouldn't want one because I drive 30K miles a year and I'd be fricked trying to charge it all the time.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:25 pm to madamsquirrel
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Just wanted to ask you folks on here hoping a couple of legitimate responses.
You aren't going to get much of that here. If there was a way to filter out people without any EV experience for these threads it would be amazing.
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if you take road trips
Did DC to Austin with an X and a Y. It was extremely easy to do
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Negatives of owning a Tesla?
Everything
See...you get dumb responses like this. Good chance they have never sat in an EV at all
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If you don't care about your road trips taking hours longer due to having to go out of the way to find a charger and waiting 30min+ to charge, go ahead
You plan your stops. It wasn't an issue to use a charger at our pre-planned stops. We had hotels with chargers included.
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and make sure you can afford to buy the $50k+ Tesla outright and be able to take the hit on depreciation
Huh? Teslas currently hold their value extremely well due to demand
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Fit and finish, quality of interior materials.
Very fair criticisms. Throw in there that the delivery process isn't always smooth as well.
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I'm sure this will turn into a typical OT EV shite show.
Only took to the second post
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The battery costing 10s of thousands of dollars to replace makes it a lot less attractive for a long run.
They last as long as an ICE engine if charged properly. I'd gather that most people on this board never run an engine into the ground if they maintain it
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So basically you have to charge these things at public charging stations? This seems stupid as frick.
Tesla Home Charging
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:26 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Not a Tesla homer and don’t plan on getting one (model Y has piqued my interest as a family car) but road trips and potentially having to shell out big bucks to replace the battery are the only real negatives.
Just don’t think your saving the world and accept those two things and you’ll be fine.
Just don’t think your saving the world and accept those two things and you’ll be fine.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:26 pm to Tigeralum2008
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The average life of Tesla batteries are between 300k and 500K miles.
Correct. The battery expiring alarmists are not grounded in facts. Yes they are expensive to replace, but besides the rare dud they last a long time
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the replacement costs for batteries. people act like they don't spend $6K-$8K for a transmission and $500 for the annual maintenance of ICE vehicles
This is not a fair price comparison. A new battery costs almost as much as a new ICE vehicle.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:27 pm to terriblegreen
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So basically you have to charge these things at public charging stations? This seems stupid as frick.
If your use case involves a full draining of the battery every day, or even every other day, OP probably needs to find something else....and move closer to work.
Never met anyone that had any issues with empty batteries that had a home charging station.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:27 pm to DVinBR
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eta: and make sure you can afford to buy the $50k+ Tesla outright and be able to take the hit on depreciation
My brother had an S model for two years and sold it himself online for only $1,200 less than what he paid for it and then bought him a Y model.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:28 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I don’t have much personal experience with them, but a guy I know has one and he said the interior components feel cheap to him. He said it seems a lot of them were just an afterthought and thrown together. He said they also burn through tires a lot quicker than gas cars, I guess because they’re heavier.
He’s had his a few years and is planning on trading it in for a hybrid sometime this year.
He’s had his a few years and is planning on trading it in for a hybrid sometime this year.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:28 pm to dbeck
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ICE engines are just burning up gas sitting in traffic.
Modern ICE engines auto start/stop while sitting in traffic
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:29 pm to terriblegreen
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I wouldn't want one because I drive 30K miles a year and I'd be fricked trying to charge it all the time.
You just explained why you should get one. I went from spending $500-$600/ month in fuel to a $20 increase in my electric bill. You charge at home, breh.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:29 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Great for trips to the walmarks, physician office, take out.
Worthless for trips.
Worthless for trips.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:30 pm to weadjust
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Modern ICE engines auto start/stop while sitting in traffic
I fricking hate this about my Tahoe.
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