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Need A New Toilet-Plumbing Warehouse VS Big Box Store?

Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:28 pm
Need a new toilet. I'm basically set on a Kohler Cimarron comfort height, elongated toilet. It was between that or an American Standard Champion 4Max. Decided on Kohler b/c plumber said he considered them better made.

Ok, so my cousin is a new construction plumber and can buy me a toilet from a plumbing supply warehouse or I can buy from Home Depot. I know with faucets, the fixtures bought from plumbing supply warehouses are better made(don't use plastic parts like big box store faucets). Is this the same for toilets? Someone else told me the toilet is the exact same, but will be cheaper at a plumbing supply place b/c you only get the toilet itself and not the wax ring, bolts, etc that come with the consumer retail packaging at Home Depot. Is this true? I'm installing myself so will need wax ring, bolts etc.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:37 pm to
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know with faucets, the fixtures bought from plumbing supply warehouses are better made(don't use plastic parts like big box store faucets)


Wut. If you buy the same Kohler faucet from Lowes or your local mom and pop plumber supply its the same exact shite.

Sounds like a myth propagated by struggling small business owners
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34203 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:43 pm to
The mom and pop may not sell all the parts that come with it and only commode itself. That is possible. I bought mine at Home Depot. It comes with the kit. Very easy to install. Just find the cheapest price and make sure it comes with a kit.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:52 pm to
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Wut. If you buy the same Kohler faucet from Lowes or your local mom and pop plumber supply its the same exact shite.



I've been told by several plumbers that the Kohler faucet from Lowe's or Home Depot etc has plastic parts while the same faucet from a plumbing supply place will have brass parts. They don't use the same exact part # even though its the same faucet otherwise. For instance, the HD faucet might be KOH-10273 but the same faucet from a plumbing supply place would be KOH-10272. Supposedly it's b/c the big box stores need to hit certain price points, so the mfr cuts corners by offering plastic parts.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:53 pm to
Get a Toto. I spent about three weeks researching and making my decision, and have been 100% happy with my Toto Drake. I'm pretty sure I could flush a pair of Jordans down that bitch if I wanted to


Eta: I got mine off of Amazon for about a bill fiddy cheaper than anywhere local
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3907 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

quote:
know with faucets, the fixtures bought from plumbing supply warehouses are better made(don't use plastic parts like big box store faucets)



Wut. If you buy the same Kohler faucet from Lowes or your local mom and pop plumber supply its the same exact shite.

Sounds like a myth propagated by struggling small business owners


I don't know if this is true for plumbing but it's definitely true for other things like lawnmowers.

To answer the OP, go with Toto toilet. The 2 I have are 10 years old and the only thing that had to be replaced was a flapper on one of them.
Posted by Engineer
Member since Dec 2015
278 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 4:05 pm to
It's the same exact thing but one is packaged for retail (upc and all on the box) and one for wholesale.

Used to work for a distributor.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131516 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 4:06 pm to
Because the plumber gets a kickback and discount from mom and pop for saying that and buying supplies there
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74781 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 4:17 pm to
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I'm pretty sure I could flush a pair of Jordans down that bitch if I wanted to
What about some ugly arse Bruno Magli shoes?


Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 4:22 pm to
What made you think of the shoes OJ said he never wore and were hideous, but in fact, did wear in one picture? How did your mind make it to that point from me saying I could flush some Jordans?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74781 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 4:34 pm to
It's simply a wonderful gift to the world, I can't begin to explain it or understand it.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13743 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:26 pm to
It should be easy enough to open up both faucets and check the parts.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14803 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:37 pm to
Go by model number

K-3609 is the number on Kholers website for the water closet you are referencing. If the one at lowes or homedepot is the same 4 digit number it's the same fixture. If a different number then different components

Baton Rouge area, you have southern pipe, Coburns, or LCR for fixtures

In New Orleans you can try southern pipe, Ferguson, southlNd ext
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61153 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:40 pm to
How do you remember that OJ shite when you've said a few times your memory was fried?
Posted by 1MileTiger
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jun 2011
1837 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:04 pm to
Yeah, so, I ran a Plumbing website. I can guarantee you that the mom and pop shop, Home Depot, and Amazon all get the toilet from the same location. In fact, Home Depot owns warehouses that most eCommerce sites fulfill through.

Also, no difference between Kohler's and American Standard's products. Toilets are toilets when it comes to the big brands.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38981 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:34 pm to
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Need a new toilet. I'm basically set on a Kohler Cimarron comfort height, elongated toilet.


Good price here if you get it in white.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:40 pm to
www.ebarnett.com
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182142 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:44 pm to
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Because the plumber gets a kickback and discount from mom and pop for saying that and buying supplies there





lolno

If you look at the serial numbers the ones at Home Depot or Lowe's will be different even though the model numbers are the same as what's sold at supply stores.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 6:46 pm
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28518 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:52 pm to
AL Bundy likes a Ferguson toilet.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:52 pm to
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If you look at the serial numbers the ones at Home Depot or Lowe's will be different even though the model numbers are the same as what's sold at supply stores.





Same is true with some Light Fixtures as well.

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