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re: NBC News defends child predators, attacks groups that expose/report child predators

Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:14 am to
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On a cool evening in October, Alain Malcolm, 20, walked into a vacant two-story colonial house in Bristol, Connecticut. Two members of a local internet vigilante group — who regularly try to expose and shame alleged child predators they entice online — were waiting for him.

Malcolm was tall and handsome. The oldest son of Jamaican immigrants, he wholly subscribed to the idea of the American dream. In high school, Malcolm was vice president of the Future Business Leaders of America club, assistant captain of the tennis and swim teams and a member of the student council and Model United Nations. He started a social marketing business at 15.

After graduating in 2016, Malcolm filled his Instagram and Facebook feeds with photos of New York high-rises, bathroom selfies in three-piece suits and links to news articles in which he was featured. He went to community college while working as a junior buyer for a local circuit-board manufacturer and was the subject of a Connecticut Public Television series that profiled recent high school graduates. Earlier this year, he was named one of Litchfield County’s 40 Leaders Under 40.

Malcolm was also gay, which was difficult growing up in a religious family in Torrington, a sleepy former mill town in the northwest part of the state, friends said.

“It’s not easy to be black, Jamaican, a Jehovah’s Witness and gay in Torrington, Connecticut,” said Allie Morrissey, a friend of Malcolm’s.

Starting in high school, Malcolm used apps like Tinder and Grindr to meet men from around the state, friends said. On that October night, he had come to Bristol to meet someone younger, purportedly a 14-year-old boy “going on 15,” according to a video posted by the digital vigilante group known as POPSquad.

When Malcolm arrived, he found that there was no boy — there was only POPSquad. For the 126th time in two years, the group — an acronym for Prey on Predators — had catfished a man on the internet, posing as an underage teen on hookup apps and luring him into a meetup, this time at an empty home whose owner allows it to be used for the group’s stings, according to POPSquad.

Like the others before him, Malcolm was greeted by Shane Erdmann, 31, better known by his alias “Incognito,” who questioned and berated Malcolm as the camera rolled. (The entire encounter was posted on Facebook the next day, though it was later removed. NBC News spoke to three people who watched it — two friends of Malcolm’s and one POPSquad fan — and described its contents.)

Confronting Malcolm with copies of the alleged sexual online messages sent to a POPSquad member, Erdmann asked: Why had Malcolm come? What disgusting things was he planning to do? What would his family think?

“I don’t have anything to live for,” Malcolm said as he stared at the ground.

Although his targets may initially believe otherwise, Erdmann isn’t with the police, and Malcolm wasn’t required to talk with POPSquad. As Malcolm walked to his car, Erdmann followed to film his license plate, reading the numbers aloud, “for the camera,” Erdmann said.

“Your family is going to see this. How do you feel?” Erdmann asked, according to people who saw the video.

Malcolm honked twice as he sped away, driving 30 minutes back home to his parents’ house in Torrington, where he hanged himself.
So you don't think they intentionally make Malcolm look like a victim here?



Come on, man
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:14 am to
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The entire article is negative regarding the groups.


even by listing the actual arrests that they have helped with?

the article seemed pretty even keeled to me

this is the final quote:

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Erdmann said. “There’s two types of people who don’t like POPSquad: We either caught you or you know somebody that we caught.”


how is leaving this as the final quote negative?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:15 am to
Yeah I just finished it. It gets more negative when talking about how law enforcement feel about them and how effective they really are. I think the LE perspective is probably more on vigilante justice in general.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:15 am to
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All of this. NBC requested FB info after a death linked to this dude's outing on FB. That's legitimate.

FB suspended the account, which is their call and not NBC's fault. NBC didn't attack anyone, they tried to see what was posted leading to the incident that triggered their story.


No. The group involved with the malcolm video is not suspended.

NBC got several OTHER pedo-targeting groups removed
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:16 am to
Yea, they definitely try to make the pedophile a sympathy case.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:16 am to
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NBC got several OTHER pedo-targeting groups removed



No they didn't.

They requested info from Facebook who then banned other groups based on their arbitrary bullying guidelines.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:17 am to
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Yeah I just finished it. It gets more negative when talking about how law enforcement feel about them and how effective they really are. I think the LE perspective is probably more on vigilante justice in general.


Agreed.

The entire bit on Malcolm makes me want to vomit, as well
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:17 am to
Yeah I'll admit it's weirdly worded to sound sympathetic to him. The dude killed himself because he got caught trying to frick 14 year old. Good riddance.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:18 am to
These are the same people that squashed Ronan Farrow with the Harvey Weinstein Story in 2016 and installed a fricking rape buzzer in Matt Lauer’s office. A bunch of hypocrites.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:20 am to
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No they didn't.

Their actions resulted in the suspension of other accounts, for clarification.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:20 am to
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Yeah I'll admit it's weirdly worded to sound sympathetic to him. The dude killed himself because he got caught trying to frick 14 year old. Good riddance.


Precisely.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:22 am to
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The dude killed himself because he got caught trying to frick 14 year old. Good riddance.


A bit off topic observation here but it's stupid, not to mention weird how the OT feels the polar opposite about grown arse degenerate adult women using their jobs as teachers to frick little boys and the occasional little girl in the same age range.

Some threads on here have legitimately gotten really creepy sometimes.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:26 am
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:25 am to
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it's stupid, not to mention weird how the OT feels the polar opposite about grown arse degenerate adult women using their jobs as teachers to frick little boys and the occasional little girl in the same age range.


Yeah the delusion that there's a difference is gross. The hot teacher who bangs a 14 year old student is arguably worse than this guy in the story when you factor in the position the teacher holds.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:27 am to
It's asinine to think NBC would defend pedo's when the aired to catch a predator for years.

it actually got cancelled due to a similar incident (pedo suicide).
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:30 am to
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“It’s not easy to be black, Jamaican, a Jehovah’s Witness and gay in Torrington, Connecticut,”


It's like a royal flush - a man, gay, black, immigrant, and a Jehovah's Witness.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:32 am to
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it actually got cancelled due to a similar incident (pedo suicide).


Why do we care when degenerates like pedos kill themselves.

The more degenerates that kill themselves the better off we are
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:33 am to
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It's like a royal flush - a man, gay, black, immigrant, and a Jehovah's Witness.


meh

Muslim would have been better
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:33 am to
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Yeah the delusion that there's a difference is gross.


I've seen some people argue that teacher/student relations should be legalized or at least decriminalized no matter the age range and they had a straight face for it.

They tried to argue a 10-14 year old boy can have a normal relationship with a woman that's at least 25 years old.

Those people either watch too much porn to the point they think it's real life or is a legit perverted creep that needs to be on a watch list.
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:35 am to
It’s like I’m supposed to feel bad about a pedo offing himself. I don’t.

They are sick people who can’t be rehabilitated.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:37 am to
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Those people either watch too much porn to the point they think it's real life or is a legit perverted creep that needs to be on a watch list.


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