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re: Navy SEAL trainee death now ruled a homicide

Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to
It can take hours for pulmonary edema and still be SOL
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:10 pm to
There's something called dry or secondary drowning. An individual can die up to 48 hours after a near drowning incident.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:15 pm to
Thanks Obama.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:15 pm to
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There's something called dry or secondary drowning. An individual can die up to 48 hours after a near drowning incident.


Holy cow, I didn't know that was a thing. How does that work biologically?
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17168 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Now that Tony is gone from the team, I'm not sure how quickly Gibbs will be able to solve this.


They'll have to bring in Pride and his NOLA team to help Gibbs out.....pretty sure Abby can solve this one on her own though.
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:30 pm to
Pulmonary edema, or fluid in the lungs. We had a patient once who we monitored for a day or so after a close call. It's more common in children, but Is still possible in adults.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
6370 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:32 pm to
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bad situation, could have similar affect as the Paris Island incident back during Nam


Wrong decade; Ribbon Creek was in the 50's.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20877 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:32 pm to
I've seen someone injest water in the lungs in a near drowning then days later develop fluid buildup and infection in the lung and the lining around the lungs. After one lung collaped It required immediate surgury with chest tubes.

If people weren't paying attention it could have been real bad real quick.

Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68038 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:34 pm to
Very sad
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92249 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:34 pm to
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Wrong decade; Ribbon Creek was in the 50's.



too lazy to search but I thought they had a drowning during a forced(swamp) march during the late 60s/early 70s? maybe not
just looked it, you're right, I've heard some GIrines refer to that as the beginning of the pussification
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:48 pm to
The Army killed about a half dozen in Ranger School about 25 years ago, wading through the swamp in the middle of the night. I think they all died of hypothermia, but some may have drowned.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:51 pm to
Damn dude. From the shows I've seen, there are usually ~5-10 instructors outside of the pool as well as the guys inside the pool. I've also seen someone call timeout for a guy to get medical attention. This is a frick up all around
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:52 pm to
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92249 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

I withheld a similar comment but it's OK coming from a jarhead
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:56 pm to
Patriots
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7192 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
Now the media will comb the episodes of those SEAL shows and definitely find a bit of "gone too far" tactics.
Posted by WhoDatJack
Member since Mar 2014
8 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:03 pm to
it is considered as a drowning if they die within 24 hours of the incident. it they die after the 24 hrs but before 48 it is considered a near drowning.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:17 pm to
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Holy cow, I didn't know that was a thing. How does that work biologically
This is an old article, but I think it describes well. LINK It seems to be more common in children (understandably). Here is an excerpt from the abstract:
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Secondary drowning (and near-drowning) is one of the post-immersion respiratory syndromes. It is defined as deterioration of pulmonary function that follows deficient gas exchange due to loss or inactivation of surfactant.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
6370 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

The Army killed about a half dozen in Ranger School about 25 years ago, wading through the swamp in the middle of the night. I think they all died of hypothermia, but some may have drowned.


That happened at Eglin AFB at the Ranger school.
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