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re: Navy admits UFO videos are real

Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22724 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:55 pm to
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Obviously why we need the Space Force


Yeah, it's beginning to make sense. I wonder if Trump will tell us after he finishes his terms?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34733 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:56 pm to
If we are to assume those three videos are authentic, I don't see how anyone isn't uncomfortable with what is unknown.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35843 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:57 pm to
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and as of now widely exceed our current known aircraft’s capabilities


Did they actually admit that part? I read that they said a) the videos were real and b) they didn't know what those things were.

That does not equate to an admission like you're suggesting.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:58 pm to
Can’t wait to knuckle check ET @ Sonic.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22724 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:02 pm to
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I don't see how anyone isn't uncomfortable with what is unknown.

I guess I'm a bit uncomfortable about it but what the hell? Why doesn't the defense secretary or Homeland Security just come clean about it. I'll be pissed if I find out we've known about these things for the entirety of my 60 plus year old life. It'll show all those people climbing up the mountains outside Groom Lake were onto something.
And what the heck can we do about it anyway??
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40310 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:03 pm to
My guess is these objects are something US made but won't be "revealed" to the public for years (decades?).

There's probably only a tiny handful of people who know about these projects' existence.

The Lockheed A-12, which evolved into the famed SR-71, wasn't revealed officially until 1990. 22 years AFTER it's final mission was flown and 38 years after its first flight.


The D12 drone, which hasn't been in service in nearly 50 years was capable of flying at 90k feet and mach 3.3


Y'all don't think our government has been testing some things since then?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:05 pm to
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Y'all don't think our government has been testing some things since then?


I really hope so because Putin told us they had hypersonic cruise missiles we couldn't defend against.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13537 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:09 pm to
Let's ask them about this climate change stuff.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:09 pm to
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And what the heck can we do about it anyway?


the first meeting is awkward.


Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22724 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:10 pm to
I was kidding. I am not scared in the least about space aliens or climate change for that matter.
Posted by Lago Gato
Member since Dec 2018
2036 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:11 pm to
I’ve had a 90 year old gentleman who personally knew many of the astronauts and flew the first jets in Korea tell me that the whole Roswell crash was true plus others . No reason for him to lie .
I think most every country is ready to come clean with this but the US . We’re not sure if people will go berserk.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78145 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:11 pm to
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The most dramatic of these videos, filmed in 2004 by an F/A-18F fighter plane, appears to show a stingray-shaped craft banking above some clouds, even making a few turns. It's enough to impress almost anyone... except, of course, military pilots familiar with the characteristics of the FLIR infrared camera. It's a bit difficult to explain in an audio program, but for an excellent breakdown of exactly what you're seeing and why it looks like a stingray-shaped craft turning above some clouds, see the article on the Metabunk website. In short, what's happening is that the stingray shape — two roundish wings with a short tail — is how any single sharp point of heat appears through the glare filter of the FLIR pod mounted to the fighter plane. Other confirming examples of this shape are widely available online.
Skeptoid

Youtube
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Lago Gato
Member since Dec 2018
2036 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:14 pm to
Where did they get the technology?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83175 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:15 pm to
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Sorry aliens, my butthole isn't available for your pervy shite


I’m free tonight tho
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104369 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:18 pm to
If that's true, it fooled highly trained pilots and radar operators, as well as Navy brass who instituted a reporting system for such sightings.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78145 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:22 pm to
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If that's true, it fooled highly trained pilots and radar operators,
It's possible. They aren't physicists. They people in the video mimic what the purported UFO video shows. Take a look at the one minute mark.
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as well as Navy brass who instituted a reporting system for such sightings.
Read about the reporting system in the text of the first link.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:24 pm to
Here is the skinny about what has gone down since those vids were released:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-pentagons-ufo-program---aerospace-esoteric-quantum-mechanics-pg19-update/74223344/

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NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics pg19 update*Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:25 pm


Check out “Unidentified” on the History Channel
And “Contact” on the Science Channel
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:30 pm to
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If that's true, it fooled highly trained pilots and radar operators,

It's possible. They aren't physicists.


If all of these incidents are glare then we have a serious training problem. And I'm not saying that isn't the case but what we have here are incidents that should have been further investigated and weren't. Even if the result of the investigation was calling half the crew dumb asses, the military should know.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7904 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:30 pm to
Plot twist - aliens set up the Raid Area 51 Facebook group as a way to introduce us to their capabilities this Friday
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:31 pm to
Recent speculation about what these things are:

https://www.dailygrail.com/2019/09/seti-or-sac-should-the-search-for-extraterrestrial-intelligence-be-a-search-for-alien-consciousness/

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SETI, OR SAC: SHOULD THE SEARCH FOR EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE BE A SEARCH FOR ALIEN CONSCIOUSNESS?

GREGSATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH


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Firstly, the three authors of the paper:

Jacques Vallee himself – a polymath known mostly for his status in the field of ufology, but who also holds higher degrees in astrophysics and computer science, is an award-winning novelist, a venture capitalist, and contributed to the foundations of the internet via his work for the ARPANET.

Federico Faggin – physicist, engineer, entrepreneur and inventor, perhaps best known for designing the first commercial microprocessor, the Intel 4004.

Garry Nolan – a renowned professor of microbiology and immunology with Stanford University (head of the ‘Nolan Lab’). Nolan was in the news last year for his investigation of the Atacama ‘alien mummy’ (and is also rumoured to be the pseudonymous ‘James’ in Diana Walsh Pasulka’s American Cosmic). As for the topics? While the title of the paper – “Towards Multi-Disciplinary SETI Research” (PDF) –


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It begins by recapitulating SETI’s origins in the ‘Drake Equation‘, and the organisation’s failure to find any evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence in subsequent decades.

In this paper, we draw lessons from the non-detection of such recognizable electromagnetic signals despite more than a half-century of sustained effort. We propose to broaden the scope of the Drake equation parameters by leveraging recently-discovered facts about forms of life, consciousness, and potential communication modes that the founders of SETI didn’t have at their disposal in the initial decades. We also support the concept of an expanded EM search in less noisy environments.


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Vallee, Faggin and Nolan raise two points in regards to revising the Drake Equation: the first being, rather than searching for the conditions of life as we know it, “and of intelligence directly derived from such life”, instead, “couldn’t we pose the problem in the form of “a search for consciousness?”

If we assume that consciousness may not always be attached to a body in the material, biological sense as we currently understand it, how could the parameters in Drake’s equation be revised?


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And then, the trio head into territory that probably turned a few faces white within SETI…

To this point, new models for the evolution of consciousness and matter are under study that suggest novel possibilities to interpret the nature of reality and which are at odds with a materialistic worldview. This includes the possibility of other forms of communication or contact with alien intelligences that are considered “science fiction” by mainstream science, yet have an extraordinary history of anecdotal evidence. We are speaking of everything from telepathy, empathy, remote viewing, and out of body experiences that may be pointing towards channels of communications beyond what electromagnetic waves can reveal. …The proteins in our brain that form our neurons sit in a quantum mix where information is transferred in still unfathomable manners. Are those proteins and biologicals completely blind to all forms of information passing through them?


We discuss non-local forms of consciousness in the thread above

We also discuss the potential of other terrestrial presences deep below the ocean and the surface of the Earth
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