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re: NASA's making a big exoplanet announcement TODAY, 11AM. Link to Presser in OP

Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:27 pm to
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What particles are you talking about?
Celestial bodies. I found out what I was missing.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:30 pm to
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I looked it up. Not only do we take into account the light coming toward us, but the movement of objections away from us. Light has one speed, the objects have another. There's more calculus involved, but I found a calculator that explains it mathematically. LINK


Nice calculations for the radius of the CMB. However the CMB is not the known universe.

From your own link:

LINK
Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:31 pm to
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sweet explanation...


I assumed that someone with a physics degree would know that the universe is expanding and that you would need to take that into account.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:31 pm to
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Do explain
If you make the assumption that we are capable of finding other life, then you assume other life exists.

That existence in itself proves that life has been happening elsewhere in the universe outside of us.

Fermi Paradox explanation
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:32 pm to
Start your own thread nerds. This one is about aliens
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:37 pm to
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I assumed that someone with a physics degree would know that the universe is expanding and that you would need to take that into account.
It's not that simple. We were talking about the age of the universe. If it's just 13.7 billion years old, then particles have only had that amount of time to expand away from the big bang. If we move in one direction (at the speed of light) and are at one end of the universe, then the other end would have the same amount of time moving in the opposite direction. Logic says this can't be more than 27 billion years from end to end. I answered too quickly. There's more to it than that. In fact, what I just said supports that. If I'm moving in one direction at the speed of light... and something else is moving at the speed of light in the other direction... we would never see each other. Because in relative terms, we are moving twice the speed of light.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:38 pm to
I know... I'm not arguing that anymore.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:38 pm to
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED!
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:38 pm to
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Celestial bodies. I found out what I was missing.


Umm, you really need to dig into this a little more.

Celestial bodies aren't moving faster than the speed of light.

The curvature of space-time is EXPANDING. Surely you remember the dots on the expanding balloon explanation to give a general analogy to how something could appear to be moving faster than light?

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I know... I'm not arguing that anymore.


Ah ok
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:40 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:39 pm to
Yeah but now it's all over my head and I can't follow. Quit making me feel stupid
Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:40 pm to
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Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:41 pm to
read a fricking book, GT
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:43 pm to
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not completely impossible.
there's a better chance of you punching a wall and the molecules lining up perfectly for hand to go straight through it
Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:45 pm to
no
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:45 pm to
Don't do it ell.

ETA:
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:46 pm to
It is that simple.

ETA: Sidewalkdawg gave a perfect explanation.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:48 pm to
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Start your own thread nerds. This one is about aliens


Does their god mandate they not masturbate? If not, I'll volunteer to go hang out.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:51 pm to
Fwiw, I've never seen the expanding balloon analogy.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:51 pm to
I didn't think the muslims at NASA even believed in other habitable planets, or other planets, or space, or science.
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