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re: NASA's making a big exoplanet announcement TODAY, 11AM. Link to Presser in OP

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Posted by ell_13
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Because if we assume life outside of us is capable of existing, then we have to assume a life form (multiple life forms) have gone through full evolutionary cycles all the way to extinction. They spread out as far as they could... they learned/utilized every possible technology... yet you and I are still alone here.
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Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Quantum physics often doesn't follow the rules of classical physics.


This is correct. However...

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Classical physics says you can't break the speed of light.


This is not correct. Classical physics never deals with anything near the speed of light. Classical physics breaks down near the speed of light and can no longer be used. Relativistic mechanics rectifies this.

Going faster than the speed of light would break all laws of causality. It just can't happen. Both in the math and logically. It can't happen.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:46 pm to
maybe dinosaurs aren't extinct, they just found a way to get off this planet and move somewhere else.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:49 pm to
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You want to talk about flipping some shite.....atheists wouldn't know what to do with themselves


I'd be more afraid of the aliens being missionaries for their own faith.

Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Classical physics never deals with anything near the speed of light.


Ummmmmm.... Maxwell's optics equations? I remember studying those. Are you saying I studied quantum physics? Cause if so I'm a lot smarter than I thought I was. (And I thought I was pretty smart)
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Because if we assume life outside of us is capable of existing, then we have to assume a life form (multiple life forms) have gone through full evolutionary cycles all the way to extinction. They spread out as far as they could... they learned/utilized every possible technology... yet you and I are still alone here.



What about that filter thingy?
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:52 pm to
Alone to you means you haven't seen a little green man. Assuming we evolve to the same end being, there could be an "alien" that looks like us, walking around collecting data for his people. Or, distance, and available resources could keep beings away, then there is the great filter theory. To assume we are the only living beings in the universe is on par with people who think the earth is 6000 years old.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:52 pm to
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What's to say we aren't the first civilization to be reaching this point of space travel etc?
Because, again, the age/size of the universe. 13 billion years. If that is as far away as we can see... then we can make an assumption that the universe's radius is that big... meaning the universe is about 26 billion light years across.

Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:52 pm to
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What about that filter thingy?
What?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:53 pm to
Why don't we just worry about our galaxy. How many intelligent life forms in the Milky Way
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:53 pm to
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Going faster than the speed
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It just can't happen.





Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:54 pm to
The Great Filter!

Read a fricking book already
Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:56 pm to
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Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:57 pm to
He's referring to the Fermi Paradox.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:57 pm to
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How many intelligent life forms in the Milky Way


<---------- 1
Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:58 pm to
Can't argue that.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Alone to you means you haven't seen a little green man. Assuming we evolve to the same end being, there could be an "alien" that looks like us, walking around collecting data for his people. Or, distance, and available resources could keep beings away, then there is the great filter theory. To assume we are the only living beings in the universe is on par with people who think the earth is 6000 years old.
Alone in the sense that we are in a locked room with no possibility of getting out. But we are in a building the size of the galaxy with quadrillions of rooms. Are there beings in those other rooms? You and I say yes.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:00 pm to
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Still wouldn't be impossible for us to be the first life form to make it to this point
Yes. It would.
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