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NASA planning manned mission to Venus

Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:24 am
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Popular science fiction of the early 20th century depicted Venus as some kind of wonderland of pleasantly warm temperatures, forests, swamps and even dinosaurs.

In 1950, the Hayden Planetarium at the American Natural History Museum were soliciting reservations for the first space tourism mission, well before the modern era of Blue Origins, SpaceX and Virgin Galactic.

All you had to do was supply your address and tick the box for your preferred destination, which included Venus.

As revealed by numerous missions in the last few decades, rather than being a paradise, the planet is a hellish world of infernal temperatures, a corrosive toxic atmosphere and crushing pressures at the surface.

Despite this, NASA is currently working on a conceptual manned mission to Venus, named the High Altitude Venus Operational Concept – (HAVOC).

But how is such a mission even possible? Temperatures on the planet's surface (about 460°C) are in fact hotter than Mercury, even though Venus is roughly double the distance from the sun.

This is higher than the melting point of many metals including bismuth and lead, which may even fall as 'snow' onto the higher mountain peaks.

The surface is a barren rocky landscape consisting of vast plains of basaltic rock dotted with volcanic features, and several continent-scale mountainous regions.

It is also geologically young, having undergone catastrophic resurfacing events.

Such extreme events are caused by the build up of heat below the surface, eventually causing it to melt, release heat and re-solidify.

Certainly a scary prospect for any visitors.

Luckily, the idea behind NASA's new mission is not to land people on the inhospitable surface, but to use the dense atmosphere as a base for exploration.






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Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:26 am to
kinda want
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:28 am to
Pretty cool stuff.

However...why don't we work towards actually going back to the moon and setting up a base of operations there, which should be a lot easier, and then work on going to Mars which should be achievable in our lifetimes?
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:28 am to
That doesn't seem very responsible.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:31 am to
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actually going back to the moon and setting up a base of operations there, 


Probably because they never went to begin with
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Temperatures on the planet's surface (about 460°C) are in fact hotter than Mercury, even though Venus is roughly double the distance from the sun.

This is higher than the melting point of many metals including bismuth and lead, which may even fall as 'snow' onto the higher mountain peaks.

The surface is a barren rocky landscape consisting of vast plains of basaltic rock dotted with volcanic features, and several continent-scale mountainous regions.


So, worst environment imaginable. That’s all you had to say.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:40 am to
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:41 am to
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So, worst environment imaginable. That’s all you had to say.

Come on, man. It's not as if they're talking about going to Ferriday.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:41 am to
I doubt a souse can get there.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:42 am to
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hellish world of infernal temperatures, a corrosive toxic atmosphere and crushing pressures at the surface.

No wonder women are from there
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:42 am to
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The surface is a barren rocky landscape consisting of vast plains of basaltic rock dotted with volcanic features, and several continent-scale mountainous regions.




ETA: Damnit, jbgleason
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 10:44 am
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:45 am to
quote:

However...why don't we work towards actually going back to the moon and setting up a base of operations there, which should be a lot easier, and then work on going to Mars which should be achievable in our lifetimes?


The moon missions illustrated the unreasonable expense and danger of manned missions to solar bodies. The push to develop AI missions that are far cheaper and include expendable components is sustaining space exploration. No government is willing to put forth the money needed for a manned mission to Mars, much less Venus.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:46 am to
space is dumb af. either find some aliens or quit wasting money on this shite.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:47 am to
quote:

So, worst environment imaginable. That’s all you had to say.


According to black science man, Venus was at one point a planet with moderate temperatures that could well have supported life back in it's heyday. Then something like 10000 volcanoes erupted at once causing an insane amount of CO2 to release. Now hot air can get in, but it cannot escape the atmosphere.

Not sure why this mission is to be manned
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:48 am to
Might as well just set eleventy billion dollars on fire
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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6860 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:48 am to
quote:

space is dumb af. either find some aliens or quit wasting money on this shite


Yeah, let's just resign ourselves to our inevitable extinction as a species.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:50 am to
well, i mean women are from there so, why not go?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:51 am to
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Yeah, let's just resign ourselves to our inevitable extinction as a species.


How does going closer to the sun help us avoid extinction? Sun=too hot 4 lyfe
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6860 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:54 am to
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How does going closer to the sun help us avoid extinction? Sun=too hot 4 lyfe


By finding out what happened to Venus and ensuring that doesn't happen to us


ETA: however my response was to the a comment saying we should leave all of space alone. So my comment isn't exclusive to venus
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 11:02 am
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
65496 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:56 am to
im sure people in 1000 years will be thankful we collected rocks from venus for this issue
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