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Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44875 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:31 am to
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Well one thing they're experts at is making crimes become other behavior that isn't a crime, to pad their stats

Also we will never have the submissive, neurotic, and hive brain of eastern Asian cultures. It's beyond silly to pretend this is an option.




Agreed. Which proves my point that the issue is the behavior in our society and not the weapon. Someone who is intent on murdering others won’t be prevented due to lack of access to a gun.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24486 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:31 am to
Send me some syrup.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:32 am to
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You really are stupid.


So are you going to claim that their statistics are lies? Or what's the angle you're going for here?
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49608 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:32 am to
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Illegally restricting gun ownership won't address the root of the problem or solve much of anything.


What is illegal?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:33 am to
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You’re right, we should all just throw up our hands,


No one is throwing up their hands. We are advocating for governmental policies that will actually work instead of bullshite based on feelings.

You want to curb gun violence? Start electing local leaders that will crush violent criminals and allocate resources to law enforcement.

It’s not a coincidence that violence is spiraling out of control in liberal metro areas since 2020.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179165 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:33 am to
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Do you really think that without guns we would still be averaging 2 instances of mass killings every single day in this country?




Even if "mass killings" dropped due to removing guns, do you realize that violent crime would increase? It did in every country that has outlawed guns. Rape went up drastically in Australia. The UK got so crazy they outlawed pointy objects because guess what... criminals were/are still committing crimes and when they know the general public can't shoot them they feel even more emboldened.


If you really want to stop gun violence then take to the streets in Chicago, St Louis, NOLA, etc and start trying to help those gang members that keep committing "mass shootings" because the 32 you are reporting on are mostly done by them every weekend. School shootings really are an outlier if you take all of the gun violence in low-income shitholes into account.

Also, most gun crime is domestic. Do you think if you take guns away that domestic killings would stop?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30865 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:33 am to
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Illegally restricting gun ownership won't address the root of the problem or solve much of anything.

Glad to have you on the right page.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:34 am to
Where are you seeing 12 dead?

First public info statement is out and it says 4 confirmed



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:34 am to
Also, the VAST majority of gun-related homicides are from handguns, not "military grade weapons".

There is a laundry list of funny items that kill more people annually than rifles.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:35 am to
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What is illegal?

What is illegal?
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49608 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:35 am to
What is illegally restricting guns?

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179165 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:36 am to
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Illegally restricting gun ownership won't address the root of the problem or solve much of anything.




It's the progressive way. Reactive instead of proactive and take the quickest shortcut they can that doesn't do anything to solve the actual problem other than make them feel good because now they have more control over the general public.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:36 am to
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What is illegally restricting guns?

The policies the anti-gun posters want to implement.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:36 am to
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Ah yes, the Republican tactic as old as time "NUH UH, YOU ARE"



Oh look, another groomer blaming a group of people that have NOTHING to do with the violence taking place.

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it's way past time for the right wing to grow the frick and take even the smallest amount of responsibility for these rights that you jack off to every night.


So because your fellow voters have no impulse control and commit a vast majority of the gun violence in this country, you point your finger at your enemy. Classic.

YOU need mental help too. Badly.

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Maybe if you take a moment to quit diddling kids in your churches every sunday and grooming children to marry at 12 then you might actually have a second to care about their lives


Yeah, your projection here is off the charts. You need mental help before you turn into one of these mass shooters. Your rhetoric and hatred is off the charts.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88529 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:36 am to
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BowlJackson
You’re a goddamn idiot
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20412 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:38 am to
Maybe instead of debating the same old “gun regulation” debate, we should be putting some effort into discussing how a tragedy involving black youth is treated differently than a mass shooting with a white person?

The media is either neglecting this story due to progressive nannying to protect the reputation of the black community or they’re literally racist and don’t care about black tragedies.

Maybe both.

Imagine a white male teen showed up at a party in the suburbs and shot 30 people? It would be front page news for a week. I mean some crazy dude goes postal on a bank, and his face was on CNN and Fox News for days.

And for those saying, “oh it’s just gang violence,” that makes it WORSE. We have a community of young people growing up in an environment where tribalism and violence are normative practices leading to the destruction of lives, the death of children, and it’s a blip on the news.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 8:53 am
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1545 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:38 am to
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I found that part weird too. Because after all, I have 30 round magazines, sights, flashlight, gangster grip, and other things that make the weapon more relevant for shooting in urban environments versus hunting Bambi 300 yards away just minding her business eating grass


Well, I can't shoot her with a 30-06, because that's "military grade" too. And "sights?" Sights are miltary grade? I don't know what a "gangster grip" is, but you do you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465159 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:39 am to
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Maybe instead of debating the same old “gun regulation” debate, we should be putting some effort into discussing how a tragedy involving black youth is treated differently than a mass shooting with a white personal?

Literally discussed on page 1 or 2
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32092 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:39 am to
Posting again

Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5010 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:39 am to
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We are advocating for governmental policies that will actually work instead of bull shite based on feelings.




The post i was replying to implied that , becuase there are more guns than people in the USA (which is true)- that we shouldn’t do a gotdam thing to reign in the numbers of guns, or the access to guns.. that is a “feeling”, baw.. Like, the feeling that “it’s too hard”.. or a feeling of resignation to do anything about the actual guns themselves.. im not saying guns are the entire problem, mental health is huge too- but sometimes things are hard, and require hard work and planning- and to say we shouldn’t bother doing anyhting about the actual gun component of the equation is just shortsighted and lazy .
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