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re: My theory on why baby boomers are criticized

Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:54 pm to
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As a frame of reference, I had two kids and a stay at home wife in 1996 and was making $50K per year, which is equivalent to $106K today per AI. I had just bought a 3 bedroom house for $125K (equivalent to $265K today) and had two cars that I had already paid off. I was able to come up with the down payment because I bought my starter first home in my 20’s that was a fixer upper in a flood zone and made some equity on it when it sold.

A lot of ambiguity there but sounds like you had it way easier than young folks these days

Good job killing it in the 90s though
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:55 pm to
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equivalent to $265K today
what would that house go for today?
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:11 pm to
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what would that house go for today?


Valid point, I looked up the estimated Zillow value and it stated $338K. Not as much difference as I expected, but more than the $265K equivalent in today’s dollars. Neighborhood and area hasn’t really changed much.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:16 pm to
No, my point was you don't have to live in the 3-5 most expensive places in the country. That's a choice you make and that's fine, but it is your choice.
I'm quite sure I spend more time outside than you
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 8:21 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:52 pm to
I don’t even live in the top 3-5 most expensive places in the south
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 9:00 pm to
People hate Boomers because they won't retire and keep sucking up all the resources unlike past generations who made way for the future. Look at Congress if you need an example.
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:39 pm to
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Valid point, I looked up the estimated Zillow value and it stated $338K. Not as much difference as I expected, but more than the $265K equivalent in today’s dollars. Neighborhood and area hasn’t really changed much.


$75k more in home = about $600 more in monthly payments or 7% of your inflation adjusted gross in 2025 dollars.

Could you have swung $350+ more a month in a mortgage 30 years ago on your salary?
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 10:47 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:33 am to
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40% of boomers have zero savings.

50% have less than $250,000 in retirement.

So, no, they did not mostly work hard, save, and retire with enough to support themselves.

That is another reason that generation is looked at negatively.
Scruffy, always remember (especially in your field) figures don't lie, but liars figure. That's especially true when straying away from Scientific Methodology and into reconstructive Critical Theory on which stereotype-based (gender, race, generational, etc) conclusions (like these) are founded.

First, wealth or savings data is generally extrapolated, survey-derived unadulterated crap. Yet, that data is foundational to claims you're citing. Perhaps the data is accurate, but the likelihood is not high.

If a government worker showed up at your door with a survey asking you to reveal all your financial particulars, how likely would you be to participate? For most folks, such a request would rank akin a the surveyor asking to put cameras in their bedroom for a government study on sexual habits. As a result, the surveyors often offer compensation for participation (the OnlyFans model), but with zero verification required, accuracy is not requisite in the paid participants responses.

IRS data is more reliable even though extrapolation of wealth from income requires a number of assumptions. Coupling IRS information with survey data demonstrates < 40% of retirees rely on Social Security (SS) as a > 50% proportion of their household income (Just 13.8% are at > 90% HHI), which undercuts "40% of boomers have zero savings" concern. E.g., the 40% "no savings" figure includes folks with full-pensions.

This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 4:35 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:44 am to
Pensions...another thing the Boomers mostly got rid of.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:07 am to
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Housing, healthcare, childcare/education, and food have all outpaced inflation. But wages have not.
So the question is, when you are shown that you are factually wrong, does it make you take a step back and reconsider your viewpoints?


This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 5:08 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:24 am to
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Pensions...another thing the Boomers mostly got rid of.
Right. By the time of the GenerationJones group, pensions were pretty much gone. But they were often part of the pay package for silents, and the older half of boomers.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:31 am to
Late to the thread.. just wanna say that im proud to be Gen X.. the cliches are true, we *are* built different .. cant say ive known any Boomers who were latchkey kids, left alone most of the time and basically raised themselves like wild animals, like we Gen Xers did .. kinda the best of both worlds since we grew up mostly analog, but computers are not *totally* foreign to us like they are to many Boomers .

The best thing about being Gen X are that we are a rarity .. seriously, there are hardly any of us around compared to the vast numbers of Boomers and of Millennials that are taking up space .. we Gen Xers are kind of an exclusive club.. there will probbaly never wind up being a Gen X president of the US (though that’s not a foregone conclusion)- but it doesnt diminish our exceptionalism .
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:44 am to
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seriously, there are hardly any of us around compared to the vast numbers of Boomers and of Millennials that are taking up space ..
Again, just to bring facts to the discussion ...



Posted by AUIH1
Logan Martin Lake, Talladega, AL
Member since Oct 2012
395 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:45 am to
Ok. But Scruffy, why are they having problems finding jobs? Could it be they feel entitled to a job paying 6 figures with a useless degree?

Maybe go to a trade school and learn a valuable and productive trade. These days, unless you are doing a STEM, engineering, medical or finance/accounting; a trade school would be the way to go.

I probably should have gone that route with a marine biology degree, but I was fortunate and worked very hard to become competent in the field I eventually ended up in.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:48 am to
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Ok. But Scruffy, why are they having problems finding jobs? Could it be they feel entitled to a job paying 6 figures with a useless degree?
boomers got more useless degrees than millennials and zoomers & a lot of “good” degrees have become practically worthless in the last three years
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:57 am to
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Ok. But Scruffy, why are they having problems finding jobs? Could it be they feel entitled to a job paying 6 figures with a useless degree?

It could be, but joblessness is humbling at some point. Demands fall. Expectations are lowered. Yet the >10% unemployment rate remains. It remains at the same time the Powell Fed claimed complete satisfaction with unemployment numbers. Sidelining it strictly as a GenZ fault is not a reasonable premise.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:57 am to
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Ok. But Scruffy, why are they having problems finding jobs? Could it be they feel entitled to a job paying 6 figures with a useless degree?
This is actually a perfect example of a stereotypical “boomer” response.

File this one under “why the younger generations hate the boomers”.

Your argument as to the reason why the unemployment rate of the younger generation coming out of college is more than double the national average is “they are entitled”.


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Maybe go to a trade school and learn a valuable and productive trade. These days, unless you are doing a STEM, engineering, medical or finance/accounting; a trade school would be the way to go.
This is just as good.

The generation that started the “get a four year degree to secure a good life” trope is now asking why people are getting four year degrees.



Step 1: Push the idea that you need a 4 year degree and everyone should go the university route.

Step 2: change the concept of entry level positions where a degree and work history is required for pretty much every entry level job.

Step 3: Claim the younger generations are simply entitled since they can’t get jobs.

Step 4: Change positions and ask why people aren’t doing the trades.

Step 5: Profit.

They should just walk into the business with a suit on and their resume in hand too, right?

This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 6:03 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77372 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:00 am to
I am thankful I don’t have to worry about this stuff.

You should watch this video. He shows the insane job listings and demands out there.

It’s wild.

LINK

This video is also great.

Job Layoffs in 2026

The guy’s content is pretty negative overall, but still pretty interesting.

The videos about new construction homes and vehicles are good.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 6:05 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:02 am to
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This is actually a perfect example of a stereotypical “boomer” response.
Yep. That is out of touch, as are many posts in this thread.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5349 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:04 am to
No problem, i dont mind being fact checked, at all .

Two things are at play here- 1) I neglected to mention Gen Z, not because there arent great numbers of them, but just b/c i didnt feel like listing all of the generations .. i do realize there are a lot more Gen Zers than there are Gen Xers… 2) the fact that Gen X is tied with Boomers now, at 19% of the population, means that my data is outdated.. the graph above is clearly a representation of the fact that Boomers are , obviously, older and are now starting to die off in huge numbers, and at a very rapid pace .. so yeah, up until recently , we Gen Xers were the smaller group in terms of percentage of population
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