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Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:36 am to LB84
My dad retired from the state police back in around 1980. He was around 47. Back then you could buy time. He has military time and other time he could buy so he retired with 16 years actual service. He immediately went to work at the sheriffs department and drew another salary with his retirement.
He passed away in 1990, and my mom is still drawing his retirement. 44 years later. With insurance up until a few years ago.
The public service retirement system was completely broken back then and we are still paying for it.
He passed away in 1990, and my mom is still drawing his retirement. 44 years later. With insurance up until a few years ago.
The public service retirement system was completely broken back then and we are still paying for it.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:41 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Sigh... I miss the DROP program.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:42 am to sparkinator
The real problem is that we’re so coddled these days
A man is supposed to go down a shaft and dig coal for 30 years and then die of black lung 3 weeks into retirement. The medical establishment knows this, that’s why they spend billions on womens diseases and pennies on mens diseases
And see what happens when you try to get someone to wear a shirt for prostate cancer
A man is supposed to go down a shaft and dig coal for 30 years and then die of black lung 3 weeks into retirement. The medical establishment knows this, that’s why they spend billions on womens diseases and pennies on mens diseases
And see what happens when you try to get someone to wear a shirt for prostate cancer
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:46 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Between the two of them they get about 10k a month guaranteed in retirement
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Both taught public school in Alabama
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Dad retired in 98. Mom retired in 2000.
None of this is adding up


Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:47 am to cobrew
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How can educators be 43/44 years old with 25 years of experience? Did they not go to school?
I explained it, but maybe I wasn't specific enough. At that time, you could bank infinite number of sick and personal days. They never used them. So, when they decided to retire they had years of paid sick and personal days. They cashed them in and it was like they were still working for 2-3 years. So they both started working as soon as they graduated and began working on their masters. I think my Dad has three masters degrees. My mother has at least that much and two other terminal degrees. Every degree meant a pay bump.
So, they were able to retire at 25 years without actually working 25 years.
I think now personal and sick days are a use them or lose them in a calendar year, so that exploit isn't there anymore.
ETA: I realize that the amount they are drawing is a lot higher than most retired educators, but Dad was an Athletic Director for 6 years prior to retirement and his salary was just under that of a principal. Mom as Technology Coordinator for the county was among the highest paid non elected positions in the district (she started as a chemistry teacher, then librarian and then created her own job when schools wanted to incorporate the internet and network every school in the county) plus she was an adjunct professor at the University of Alabama, so that added to her total salary.
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 8:00 am
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:02 am to sparkinator
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The public service retirement system was completely broken back then and we are still paying for it.
it ain't fix now, baw
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:14 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I got five years to retirement at 51
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:17 am to Park duck
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I got five years to retirement at 51
I was financially prepared to retire at 55, through my own preparation and planning, stuck my toe in the water for a few months and decided I was too young to sit on the bench, I enjoy what I do, always have, and I love going to work, there will come a point to where I'm ready to cash in, just not there yet
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:24 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Yea it's not like that anymore. At least in Florida. I am on my 27th year. Master's degree. National certification my state retirement at 30 years is estimated to be 1600 a month.....
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:27 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Those pension plans were designed by people that can’t do math while taxpayers are on the hook for them
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:28 am to new92
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Yea it's not like that anymore. At least in Florida. I am on my 27th year. Master's degree. National certification my state retirement at 30 years is estimated to be 1600 a month...
That sucks, but if I recall, Florida's retirement for teachers always kind of sucked (at least from what I remember when my parents were considering moving us permanently to the coast and finding a job). Is that an unconditional pension or is it conditional like my parents' where you couldn't draw a full time salary and still receive benefits?
That's why they both went into commission based fields post retirement -- as long as they weren't drawing a salary, they got full pension and benefits.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:28 am to 777Tiger
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it ain't fix now, baw
I agree, but they have made some corrections.
My dad took a pay cut when he joined the state police because he knew just how much he could make on the back end after he retired. Full benefits and percent of pay for the rest of his AND my moms lives.
Worked for 16 years (at that job) and steady pay and full benefits for 44 years and counting. I don’t think that’s still part of the package.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:32 am to CocomoLSU
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Public retirement systems are basically Ponzi schemes.
So is social security...
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:38 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I retired from the Military at age 49 with 31 years. I'll be drawing a six figure pension until I die which is hopefully a long time from now.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:38 am to PurpleandGold Motown
If you can’t retire early, it’s YOUR fault. If you don’t save money for retirement it’s YOUR fault.
Take responsibility, work and plan. Stop blaming others.
Take responsibility, work and plan. Stop blaming others.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:43 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Id reckon they’re probably “conservatives”, too. 

Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:45 am to greenbean
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Seems like they planned better, were more disciplined and worked smarter than most oof us. Having kids early in life also helps, I'd be retired now if I didn't have a kid at 40.
Seems like they took advantage of an opportunity no longer available. Which is the point.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:47 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Boomers have fricked everything up and WILL bankrupt Social Security and Medicare. We will be left with a fraction of those benefits when it is time to retire which is why you must max a 401k/Roth/HSA to even be able to survive at a subsistence level in retirement. Its sad.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:50 am to terriblegreen
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I retired from the Military at age 49 with 31 years. I'll be drawing a six figure pension until I die which is hopefully a long time from now.
You sound like my Uncle. He retired as a Lt Colonel after 30+ years and is drawing something similar. He didn't really want to retire. He was stationed in Korea with a home base in Hawaii. He loved his job, but according to him he got into an altercation with the local chief of police because the local cops decided to run an exercise in the middle of the night on the golf course next to his base without telling anyone. He almost authorized use of force. So, the next day he might have put hands on the police chief -- neither confirmed nor denied.
They decided to move him up north to avoid any problems. He said, "It was cold. I didn't want to go." So, he cashed out.
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