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Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:12 am to UptownJoeBrown
Always was a fan of Kansas.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:13 am to The Squonk
Laugh all you want. What economic value is AI, particularly the "generative AI" that people seem to think is going to make computer software for us, creating? If it's not creating value, when will it, and how?
I get pretty pissed off about this shite. When I graduated high school, people told me not to get a CS degree because all the jobs would go to Indians. I knew Indians and I thought they were idiots so I didn't listen. A few years later is was Eastern Europeans. I knew people from Eastern Europe and they were idiots so I pressed forward.
Now it's AI. I know how generative AI works. It's idiotic. I am not afraid of it.
I'd like to hedge my bets, though. What's the hot AI stock I should put my money into? I'm assuming your money is in AI, right, you man of mirth?
I get pretty pissed off about this shite. When I graduated high school, people told me not to get a CS degree because all the jobs would go to Indians. I knew Indians and I thought they were idiots so I didn't listen. A few years later is was Eastern Europeans. I knew people from Eastern Europe and they were idiots so I pressed forward.
Now it's AI. I know how generative AI works. It's idiotic. I am not afraid of it.
I'd like to hedge my bets, though. What's the hot AI stock I should put my money into? I'm assuming your money is in AI, right, you man of mirth?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:20 am to deltaland
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There’s a small percentage of Indians who are extremely smart but they’re not an overall high IQ group like Chinese and Japanese are.
I know several Airmen who gone over there to train them to work on aircraft. They all say they are the dumbest race of people on the planet. The ones that are over here are like the top .1% of the population.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:26 am to Porpus
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Laugh all you want. What economic value is AI
Just because you’re mad about it and in denial doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Microsoft just laid off a ton of developers and replaced 2/3 of them with AI and the rest with offshore Pajeets.
This is becoming more common among Fortune 100 companies. It may be delayed if you work for a smaller shop because of the upfront cost involved, but it will get your developer role sooner than you’re ready.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:28 am to The Squonk
At least for the near future you wont lose jobs to AI you'll lose jobs to people who know how to use AI.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:33 am to GeauxEdits
That’s comforting 
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:34 am to The Squonk
I agree somewhat because i am in the data analytics field. Where your argument is off is where you think A.I can automatically break down what a customer is asking for from the data or trying to understand the ask itself. That's 70% of the work for me. Thirty percent of the work is coding . That is the easy part for me. Then get back to me when they change the specs again. A.I. maybe ready for the Coding part but it aint ready yet for dealing with people trying to nail down exactly what they are needing in the end. Ever been on the phone with A. I. when you have a complicated question. Tell me how that went?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:45 am to FLObserver
My company’s AI efforts are getting very good at insights.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:47 am to Porpus
quote:when the AI bots take over, they’re coming for you first.
Porpus
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:52 am to The Squonk
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Unless some completely new field of employment opens up, we will have no choice except to have some form of UBI.
No. This is the worst idea ever, because with UBI, everything will just get more expensive because everyone just got a X% raise.
Just because we don’t know what jobs will replace these tech jobs doesn’t mean that jobs won’t happen. Time and time again technology has evolved to replace masses of men and women working. Every time we have adapted without UBI
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:08 pm to HeadCall
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Lucky for me I’m a pilot. So I feel pretty safe in saying that no robot or fancy AI could ever do what I do.
Boy do I have some news for you...
It'll be a while before automation is trusted on commercial passenger flights, but that's coming relatively soon. It's pretty much already here on the doorstep with freight carriers.
Being a commercial pilot is one of the few careers that'll be impacted the earliest.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:10 pm to RazorBroncs
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Being a commercial pilot is one of the few careers that'll be impacted the earliest.
The technology is already there to be honest. But ironically, unions and the FAA being slow as molasses on changing regulations means it may be the last to be impacted.
Also, the freight carriers tend to fly the oldest fleets which means it more difficult to integrate the newer technology into their airplanes.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:13 pm to fallguy_1978
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I do worry about my kids and what things will look like for them in the future. They are both girls. I can't exactly tell them to go be a lineman
Yes you can. One of the better data center techs I work with is a girl. She's a little butch but she's smart and skilled, great communicator, and gets the job done.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:14 pm to HeadCall
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I am serious. And don’t call me Shirley.
What's your vector victor?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:19 pm to The Squonk
We are implementing AI into our products where I work, and also using it in our daily jobs. It can be useful, and holds the promise of becoming more useful, but in my experience, it's kind of like hunting -- it works a lot better if you are hunting over a baited field, and someone has to bait that field.
While I think it can be a useful tool, I am more concerned that it will become the best propaganda tool ever. People assume the results they are getting are objective, but it depends on who baited that field and the data set it has to work with.
In our company, the general feeling is that we can get 5 Indians for the price of one American. The bean counters are always pushing for the Indians, The people who have to manage the process and support the results, are begging for Americans. Now, some Indians are great, particularly the ones who are already here and who were educated here. But like any other group, not all are and there is a lot of lying on resumes going on. At one point, we bought an eastern European company. They say the ratio there is 3 to 1 Americans, and we get much better results with them, plus the time difference is less of a problem. We had tried South American resources. The time difference is not a problem, but there is a different work ethic.
While I think it can be a useful tool, I am more concerned that it will become the best propaganda tool ever. People assume the results they are getting are objective, but it depends on who baited that field and the data set it has to work with.
In our company, the general feeling is that we can get 5 Indians for the price of one American. The bean counters are always pushing for the Indians, The people who have to manage the process and support the results, are begging for Americans. Now, some Indians are great, particularly the ones who are already here and who were educated here. But like any other group, not all are and there is a lot of lying on resumes going on. At one point, we bought an eastern European company. They say the ratio there is 3 to 1 Americans, and we get much better results with them, plus the time difference is less of a problem. We had tried South American resources. The time difference is not a problem, but there is a different work ethic.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:22 pm to greenbean
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They all say they are the dumbest race of people on the planet. The ones that are over here are like the top .1% of the population.
Well they have a caste system. If you were born to a father who shoveled shite for a living, guess what you ended up doing?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:29 pm to The Squonk
delete
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:35 pm to The Squonk
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You’re 100% correct that indians are the worst employees.
Even the competent ones, which still don't match up to a typical American worker, are impossible to deal with because of the time difference. You need someone managing them almost full time. Maybe that works for some companies, but I find it hard to believe they're really getting value when they add in all of the related costs.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:43 pm to The Squonk
It's funny how everyone was expecting robots to take over fast food and blue collar jobs, even rooting for the day, only for computers to instead be better suited to take the jobs of white collar workers.
Seems karmic in a way.
Seems karmic in a way.
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