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re: Muslim Somali Refugee Slashes 9 in Knife Attack @ Ohio State, Susp. Dead.

Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:59 am to
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73538 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:59 am to
run first

hide second

fight if necessary?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23312 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:59 am to
quote:

You couldn't be any more wrong in your opinions. Everything you said is wholly inaccurate as borne out by studies of active shooter incidents. But feel free to lay there and be an easy target while I get away from the guy with a gun.


It's actually pure fact that there has not been one person shot while laying on the ground in an active shooter situation in the USA in the last 10 years. What do you say to that? How do you think we have all these injuries from gsw's and none of them are shot in the head point blank?

I never said not to run, my point was to the fact people said playing dead didn't work. In certain situations it does.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

considering they now they them carry guns on campus and then they did not this argument is invalid.


What?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79936 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:00 am to
4 of the 8 people were shot. Others may have been slashed/stabbed.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42867 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:00 am to
Law passed in TX allowing firearms to be carried on campus,
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2689 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

What?

they can carry guns on campus in Texas
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8679 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

considering they now they them carry guns on campus and then they did not this argument is invalid.



Honestly it's not any less valid than your argument, which is based on a lot of assumptions, with all of them checked off in your scenario.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:01 am to
K
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

considering they now they them carry guns on campus
But I would imagine that the chances that an immediate intervention from a person carrying is very slim since most won't be carrying and it's a very sudden and unpredictable situation to react to.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11388 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:02 am to
quote:

You are an angry person


Dude's posts are more reasonable than 90% of the arse clowns on here.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109591 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

But I would imagine that the chances that an immediate intervention from a person carrying is very slim since most won't be carrying and it's a very sudden and unpredictable situation to react to.



This seems to miss the point of permitting concealed carry.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:03 am to
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BREAKING: ATF Columbus Field Division agents are responding to scene of reported OSU active shooter.

SBAVerified account ?@SBANYPD 7m7 minutes ago
#BreakingNews @OhioState Univ - 7 injured & transported to hospital in #OSU shooting. #FBI now on scene. Students told to "run, hide, fight"

NBC Nightly News ?@NBCNightlyNews 38m38 minutes ago
DEVELOPING: Security incident at Ohio State Univ.; campus on lockdown, shelter-in-place ordered; major police response.
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8738 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:04 am to
Apparently one of the attackers has/had a machete.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

This seems to miss the point of permitting concealed carry.
Huh? I'm just responding to the poster's comment that the shooter would have been taken down immediately.
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:06 am to
If y'all could have some decency and not immediately turn this into a political argument and dick measuring contest about how fast you think you'd draw and drop him in a potentially crowded area with civilians running around and have an ounce of compassion and focus on the people injured and possibly still in immediate danger. Grow the frick up
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8679 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:07 am to
quote:

It's actually pure fact that there has not been one person shot while laying on the ground in an active shooter situation in the USA in the last 10 years. What do you say to that? How do you think we have all these injuries from gsw's and none of them are shot in the head point blank?

I never said not to run, my point was to the fact people said playing dead didn't work. In certain situations it does.


Wrong.
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Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73538 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:08 am to
none of those folks in the pics are running.. didn't they get the memo?


also, no sticky?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52352 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:09 am to
quote:


Is the threshold different depending on trauma unit level (OSU is level one)


Yes, trauma designations are granted by the American Trauma Society in cooperation with the AMA. Level one is the highest meaning they can respond to multiple and varying traumas at one time.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2689 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Huh? I'm just responding to the poster's comment that the shooter would have been taken down immediately.

I agree with you that it would have to be the right situation and at that point it's just chance, but I thin what he was pointing out is that someone would be more hesitant to to start shooting with the possibility of someone near also having a gun.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45838 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:10 am to
I know these situations spread rumors, but this is what one person claimed happened

quote:

they pulled the fire alarm & drove a truck into 30+ people when they ran out of the building. they jumped out of car & attacked ppl.. insane
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