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re: Mrs. Sadie Roberts-Joseph was Murdered Friday afternoon.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
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If you stop incarcerating people for petty crimes like pot and other recreational drug use, you have more space, time, and effort for people with rap sheets like this. You also likely prevent the system creating people like this
how bout we lock them all up? in the same place? no segregating, no blue collar, petty, misdemeanor shite to separate violent from non-violent offenders? No need for multiple facilities and bureaucracies.
Just one really shitty place to send every offender. Maybe then, we wouldn't have to release the really bad shitheads to make room for the slightly bad shitheads. And maybe then, if prison sucked really bad enough for every participant, less people would want to go.
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:45 pm to tigerinthebueche
Ron Jermaine Bell
Bell was a tenant in one of Roberts-Johnson’s rental homes. They believe he was behind several months on his rent, and that he owed abut $1,200.
Bell is a registered sex offender. He was already in jail on other charges when he was identified as a murder suspect,
Bell was a tenant in one of Roberts-Johnson’s rental homes. They believe he was behind several months on his rent, and that he owed abut $1,200.
Bell is a registered sex offender. He was already in jail on other charges when he was identified as a murder suspect,
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:47 pm to Golfer
quote:no rational person would kill anyone for anything.
He killed her over $1200?
For this to be the reason he killed her he will get to live in a mental hospital for the rest of his life.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:48 pm to tigerinthebueche
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This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:50 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:This is dumb
how bout we lock them all up? in the same place? no segregating, no blue collar, petty, misdemeanor shite to separate violent from non-violent offenders? No need for multiple facilities and bureaucracies.
Just one really shitty place to send every offender. Maybe then, we wouldn't have to release the really bad shitheads to make room for the slightly bad shitheads. And maybe then, if prison sucked really bad enough for every participant, less people would want to go.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:50 pm to lsupride87
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They are actually still correct
I also agree, but for a slightly different reason. Too many people like this guy ARE actually in prison. They should be 6 feet under, with their necks broken after being publicly hung!
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:53 pm to Boudreaux35
quote:I agree that a guy like Bell should never have seen freedom again
Too many people like this guy ARE actually in prison. They should be 6 feet under, with their necks broken after being publicly hung!
If you rape an 8 year old, there is no rehabilitating you. You have a sickness that can't be fixed and you should never be allowed to be part of the free population again
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:53 pm to lsupride87
quote:
This is dumb
why?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:55 pm to lsupride87
quote:
They are actually still correct
If you stop incarcerating people for petty crimes like pot and other recreational drug use, you have more space, time, and effort for people with rap sheets like this. You also likely prevent the system creating people like this
Exactly
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:57 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:You dont see why its dumb we put someone who smokes a little pot in the same jail and circumstance as someone who murders a person?
why?
Maybe try the middle east
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:57 pm to tigerinthebueche
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how bout we lock them all up? in the same place? no segregating, no blue collar, petty, misdemeanor shite to separate violent from non-violent offenders? No need for multiple facilities and bureaucracies.
Just one really shitty place to send every offender. Maybe then, we wouldn't have to release the really bad shitheads to make room for the slightly bad shitheads. And maybe then, if prison sucked really bad enough for every participant, less people would want to go.
You are so misinformed on this subject that it isn't worth arguing.
Man, this is such a sad post. I know it reflects the opinion of a large portion of certain populations and it's a sign nothing will change.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:58 pm to MorbidTheClown
looks like a fat childish gambino
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:04 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Just one really shitty place to send every offender. Maybe then, we wouldn't have to release the really bad shitheads to make room for the slightly bad shitheads. And maybe then, if prison sucked really bad enough for every participant, less people would want to go.
I don't think anyone really wants to go to prison. And it cost money to keep all of these people in prison. A lot of money. This is a site I found with a quick google search (so not sure how credible it is).
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Amount spent annually in the U.S. on the war on drugs: $47+ billion
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Number of people arrested for a marijuana law violation in 2017: 659,700
Number of those charged with marijuana law violations who were arrested for possession only: 599,282 (90.8 percent)
LINK
That is a lot of money.. There needs to be away to help people. A lot of people are a victim of their environment. They are in and out of jail because they have no life skills to be able to get a decent job.
Putting everyone, no matter how bad the crime is, in one jail together isn't the answer. People need to be rehabilitated and be able to contribute to society. Not everyone will be able to be helped, but even if you take all the people who go back to jail after their first time and reduce it by 25% it not only saves money, but they are actually an asset. That's something that needs to be focused on..
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:19 pm to OweO
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I don't think anyone really wants to go to prison
I didn't say they did.
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And it cost money to keep all of these people in prison. A lot of money. This is a site I found with a quick google search (so not sure how credible it is).
I agree its expensive. But when they want to reduce military spending, they close bases. When you want to reduce operational costs, you close facilities. So why not close prisons where we send white collar criminals and petty criminals, and send them to Angola?
people always say, let the weed slingers and drug users out? Well they've been reducing violations, and adjusting prison terms, for drug use. They've been reducing the severity of crimes to make it easier to avoid jail time. What good is it doing?
I'm not advocating one way or the other. Just asking why the popular answer is always..."let the criminal out to make room and save money."
seems we ought to be enforcing the punishment as opposed to undermining it by letting people out. Or out early, or for good behavior, etc. Put them away and make them stay there. Maybe then jail would be a deterrent instead of an inconvenience. and perhaps we wouldn't have so many people doing things to earn jail time. if so, we just saved a bunch of money.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:22 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You are so misinformed on this subject that it isn't worth arguing
lol. Nice ad hominem response. apparently you arent very well informed either.
Keep up the good work.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:28 pm to lsupride87
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If you stop incarcerating people for petty crimes like pot and other recreational drug use, you have more space, time, and effort for people with rap sheets like this. You also likely prevent the system creating people like this
True, but the majority of people in jail aren't there for petty crimes.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:33 pm to georgia
Glad this post finally got through. When I posted it here Saturday the admins whacked it for some reason.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
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You dont see why its dumb we put someone who smokes a little pot in the same jail and circumstance as someone who murders a person?
I don't see why you think the answer is to undermine the law by negating the punishments for violating the law.
you don't like the law and its results for violating said law, change the law. But don't pass a law as a deterrent, then negate the deterrent by letting the abuser go free.
as to the difference between the weed smoker and a murderer, aren't both breaking the law as currently written? If the point of prison is to incarcerate law breakers, then put them in jail. If you want to save money, put them in the same jail.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:36 pm to OweO
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but even if you take all the people who go back to jail after their first time and reduce it by 25% it not only saves money
The electric chair saves us the most money. AND, the electric chairs guarantees that they will not offend again! Thats the beauty about it. GUARANTEED, will not offend again!!
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:37 pm to CALGON
You are a perfect example of people who can’t form their own argument so they just use the same played out, regurgitated talking points....
Only problem is that the talking points that you used here don’t even apply
Only problem is that the talking points that you used here don’t even apply
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