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re: mRNA Vaccine inventor says he’s worried about surge in covid-19 cases in vaccinated areas.

Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:17 am to
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20344 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:17 am to
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Natural Immunity for the win.

We should only be vaccinating high risk people. Who are high risk due to genetics etc.
Not .....oh I'm overweight.
Oh, I'm type 2 diabetic.


That's absurd. We should be vaccinating anyone who wants it.

You don't have to get it, not any of my business, but to say "we shouldn't be vaccinating fat people" is dumb shite. If they want it, they can get it, that's fine and cool.
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
2045 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:23 am to
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He didn’t invent the mRNA vaccine.


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The fact that you people keep calling this guy the “inventor” of the mRNA vaccine rofl


Prove it, you delusional retards.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7537 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:26 am to
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Dr. Robert Malone, a pioneer and one of the five inventors of mRNA vaccines, expressed his concerns about the sudden surge in covid-19 cases in countries with the most vaccinated citizens while the 15 least vaccinated countries don‘t seem to face any problem On Friday, Dr. Malone shared a viral Twitter that lays out a disturbing trend in Europe with surges at many places where most of the population has already been vaccinated, according to the analysis from Our World in Data, the same site used by Google. In a tweet, Dr. Malone said, “This is worrying me quite a bit.”


I am no doctor but from what I understand the vax was never meant to prevent people from getting COVID, but rather lessen the effects of COVID so people would not have to go to the hospital and keep hospitalizations down. Why does the author only mention cases when we know this is erroneous for his analysis? OP sounds like a whiny bitch trying to convince himself of something.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:27 am to
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So Trump was right on banning travel? Go figure.


Yes, but when we ban travel... it should probably extend to everyone
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
2045 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:29 am to
Keep moving the goal posts when you know you’re wrong…
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7537 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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Keep moving the goal posts when you know you’re wrong…


Jesus Chirst dude on the front page of Louisiana Department of Health

"Your body gets protection without the serious consequences of a severe illnest due to COVID-19 exposure."

This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 8:33 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74886 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:33 am to
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sounds like a whiny bitch trying to convince himself of something.


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by hubertcumberdale


Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
2045 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35676 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:40 am to
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while the 15 least vaccinated countries don‘t seem to face any problem


In large part it is probably because they don't care enough to look under every rock for covid. They likely have far greater daily concerns than a RELATIVELY harmless virus. Covid is without a doubt there. It's likely causing some people to die. But not at a rate where hospitals are flooded with walking zombies.

The virus has always been real. The cataclysmic nature of the pandemic is the farce. It was and continues to be GROSSLY overhyped by western politicians and media to serve their OWN self-interests.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:41 am to
Here is some interesting info on the history of mRNA

LINK

Looks like a paper by Malone is referenced as a source for some of the info cited.

His self claimed “inventor” label seems like a bit of puffery at a minimum.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30281 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:41 am to
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“The data is cherry-picked and ignores confoundings. Larger, wealthier countries have more international travelers and Delta is in the early stages. Go to the source and view all EU countries simultaneously and see for yourself. Malone makes some good points, but not this one.”


Anti-vaxxers have succumbed to the same data issues that have plagued the COVID case and death numbers since day 1....don't believe any of it.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14207 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:42 am to
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tgrbaitn08

Seriously? A link to his own YouTube and his own website is your proof? C’mon man.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7537 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:43 am to
From your own link

quote:

Vaccine Effectiveness
All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19 as seen in clinical trial settings.
Research provides growing evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines offer similar protection in real world conditions.
COVID-19 vaccination is an important tool to help stop the COVID-19 pandemic.
COVID-19 vaccination helps protect people from getting sick or severely ill with COVID-19 and might also help protect people around them.
To receive the most protection, people should receive all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine.
Some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick because no vaccine is 100% effective. Experts continue to monitor and evaluate how often this occurs, how severe their illness is, and how likely a vaccinated person is to spread COVID-19 to others.
CDC recommends you get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as one is available to you.



This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 8:44 am
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
2045 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:45 am to
So you admit they're saying both and misinforming people?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7537 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:47 am to
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So you admit they're saying both and misinforming people?



What are you trying to argue here? That the govt is lying to public about the vaccines for nefarious reasons?
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
2045 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:50 am to
They're literally censoring people that say the same things they say...When I say the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of Covid, I'm crazy, but you'll bend over backwards to prove the CDC saying the same thing. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14207 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:52 am to
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When I say the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of Covid, I'm crazy

Because that’s a false statement.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13093 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:53 am to
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They're literally censoring people that say the same things they say...When I say the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of Covid, I'm crazy, but you'll bend over backwards to prove the CDC saying the same thing. Do you not see the hypocrisy?



It isn't hypocrisy, nothing is 100%. The more people who get vaccinated the less the virus will circulate, regardless of its efficacy. That's how social immunity works. Always has.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7537 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:54 am to
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They're literally censoring people that say the same things they say...When I say the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of Covid, I'm crazy, but you'll bend over backwards to prove the CDC saying the same thing. Do you not see the hypocrisy?


Who is censoring anyone for that? Its literally on every state department of health's frontpage as well as the CDC.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 8:55 am
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