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Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:52 pm to Pettifogger
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I tire of people like you who have grown convinced that being contrarian will garner some intellectual credibility that is otherwise unearned.
But he's a moderate the promotes the progressive party line 100% of the time!
Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:54 pm to AwgustaDawg
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This is exactly in line with what most trans people would say...they were born one or the other. Other people decided if they were a boy or a girl. Biological sex is an inarguable fact. Gender, on the other hand, is a social construct, as is race. There is no ambiguity in that, only a misunderstanding based on actual ignorance or willful ignorance. If you doubt it you must have doubted your own gender at some point and settled for one...most people never do that.
I love that primarily straight people outside the trans rights community make the bolded point all the time while people within that advocacy community frequently refute it.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:55 pm to Nolalakeview
quite the catchy tune, with a truthful message! Reddit must be in shambles over it.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:01 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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He would be forced to clarify his remarks, adjust, and apologize or be canceled if ONE insane progressive on Twitter whined.
He died before Twitter but apparently he still changed the words when he released the song on album.
Mr Rogers Neighborhood Archive
Notes
Becoming more sensitive to gender issues, Fred Rogers slightly altered the third verse of this song for the You Are Special CD release:
Original lyrics: "Only girls can be the mommies. Only boys can be the daddies."
Altered lyrics: "Girls grow up to be the mommies. Boys grow up to be the daddies
I guess we gotta cancel him like Drew Brees for bowing to wokeness now.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:03 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:It was a different time, you dolt. He didn't use those words today. He even changed the lyrics himself decades ago to clarify some parts of it. I have no doubt that he would have continued to evolve the song had he had the chance, or he would have "retired" it and possibly replaced it with something that dumbasses couldn't misinterpret today.
As a former progressive, I am NOT mistaken as to how something like this would be taken today. He would be forced to clarify his remarks, adjust, and apologize or be canceled if ONE insane progressive on Twitter whined.
He wasn't taking a stance on trans people with the lyric, and anyone thinking he was is a fricking dumbass. That includes you dummies in this thread who think the modern left would cancel him and any actual lefties who would want to cancel him.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:07 pm to Nolalakeview
I remember my older brother told me Mr. Rodgers was gay and that if you watched him you were gay as well.. Which is funny thinking about now, because I must have been 4 or 5 and because of the shite my brother told me I thought being gay was the grosses thing someone could be. And that was the line you didn't cross.. Like if you did something and was told something like "that looks like something gay people do" that was it.
Come to think of it, anyone who grew up in the 90s or before who claims they were never homophobic or was never around it, they are a god damn liar.
Come to think of it, anyone who grew up in the 90s or before who claims they were never homophobic or was never around it, they are a god damn liar.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:25 pm to Nolalakeview
Just as the Left has a bad habit of coloring anyone with a conservative bone in their body as a MAGA cultist, so to does the Right label anyone left of them some proselytizer of this LBGELWQJJWEKR:LKJ+ nonsense. Meanwhile, 80% of us aren't close to being MAGA, nor do we want trans stuff normalized and mainstreamed.
Mr. Rogers was an incredibly empathetic and emotionally intelligent man. His message would remain unchanged today. More than most, he recognized that it's just not color, sexuality, creed which makes us different; we're ALL different in own unique ways. He wanted us to respect those differences, not to necessarily like them. Just be respectful of your fellow man.
Mr. Rogers was an incredibly empathetic and emotionally intelligent man. His message would remain unchanged today. More than most, he recognized that it's just not color, sexuality, creed which makes us different; we're ALL different in own unique ways. He wanted us to respect those differences, not to necessarily like them. Just be respectful of your fellow man.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:54 pm to Korkstand
I loved Mr. Rogers and watched him everyday growing up. Yes, he was a wonderful role model. Sorry to say he definitely would be "Cancelled" today by the Lefties for that song.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:11 pm to bad93ex
In the 80's, one of the popular magazines had an article on Mr. Rogers that had some unflattering (mildly) commentary about him.
When the "letters to the editor" came in supporting Mr. Rogers, they had to do some backing up. They said that they had never had any article generate so much mail - some very supportive and the rest pissed off about the mild criticism.
The kids who grew up with Mr. Rogers are very protective.
When the "letters to the editor" came in supporting Mr. Rogers, they had to do some backing up. They said that they had never had any article generate so much mail - some very supportive and the rest pissed off about the mild criticism.
The kids who grew up with Mr. Rogers are very protective.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:12 pm to OweO
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I remember my older brother told me Mr. Rodgers was gay and that if you watched him you were gay as well.. Which is funny thinking about now, because I must have been 4 or 5 and because of the shite my brother told me I thought being gay was the grosses thing someone could be.
At 4 or 5 years of age, I doubt you had a clue what being "gay" meant. I hope not.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:14 pm to Nolalakeview
quote:There seem to be two basic categories of dumbasses in this thread.
Sorry to say he definitely would be "Cancelled" today by the Lefties for that song.
Dumbass A thinks Mr. Rogers was making an anti-trans statement with the song and would be canceled by the left today for being anti-trans.
Dumbass B thinks Mr. Rogers wasn't making an anti-trans statement but would still sing the song the same way today and would be canceled by the left for poor word choices.
Which category of dumbass are you?
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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His message would remain unchanged today. More than most, he recognized that it's just not color, sexuality, creed which makes us different; we're ALL different in own unique ways. He wanted us to respect those differences, not to necessarily like them. Just be respectful of your fellow man.
He was able to respect and be kind to everyone because he was his own man and didn't feel the need to prove who he was to anyone else. Apparently that is lost on the majority of people now with the need to post a fake life on facebook/Instagram.
Insecure people just find it difficult to accept others who are different in general.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:18 pm to Corinthians420
“All in the Family “ would never air in todays America…..
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:25 pm to Korkstand
I never said he was making an anti-trans statement.
Which category of dumbass are you?
Which category of dumbass are you?
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:31 pm to Korkstand
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There seem to be two basic categories of dumbasses in this thread.
Dumbass A thinks Mr. Rogers was making an anti-trans statement with the song and would be canceled by the left today for being anti-trans.
Dumbass B thinks Mr. Rogers wasn't making an anti-trans statement but would still sing the song the same way today and would be canceled by the left for poor word choices.
Which category of dumbass are you?
The following are true:
- Mr. Rogers wasn't providing critical commentary on transgenderism, which was likely unknown to him or a remote, bizarre concept.
- The modern left regularly objects to commentary that is by any measure neutral but defies the more modern and "enlightened" stances on gender/sex.
"Boys are born as boys and remain boys and can't become girls" doesn't need to be an "anti-trans" statement. Nonetheless, it would still result in all sorts of hostility regardless of whether it was uttered as a mere statement of affirmation of boys, a neutral statement of fact or a political shot at the trans movement.
It's just patently absurd to talk about the people who changed "sex at birth" to "sex assigned at birth" as though they're really only interested in cancelling or contesting those who are overtly "anti-trans"
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:32 pm to Nolalakeview
quote:I may be a dumbass in some respects but not in the context of this thread. Mr. Rogers was preaching "wokeness" to kids 50 years ago.
Which category of dumbass are you?
Maybe he would get canceled today, but it would be by conservatives.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:34 pm to Nolalakeview
quote:Then you are in category B, the dumbass who thinks he would write/sing the same lyrics today and then get canceled. Even though he had already changed the lyrics on his own, without being forced or persuaded, as the times changed.
I never said he was making an anti-trans statement.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:39 pm to Korkstand
No he wasn’t.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:40 pm to Korkstand
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Then you are in category B, the dumbass who thinks he would write/sing the same lyrics today and then get canceled. Even though he had already changed the lyrics on his own, without being forced or persuaded, as the times changed.
You think changing the lyrics to clarify that adults are dads/moms means he'd likewise adjust to change his view on the continuity of male/femaleness throughout life?
I'm a bit doubtful
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