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re: Motor Trend list most reliable used trucks available - Toyota, Chevrolet, and GMC dominate
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:13 am to El Segundo Guy
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:13 am to El Segundo Guy
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How in the frick are you going to determine reliability in a current year model that's barely hit 10k?
They get a ton of data from large fleets where those trucks have a shite ton of miles plus idle hours through the roof. At my last company we had hundreds of 2-3 year old trucks well over 100k with engine hours that are borderline offensive.
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:20 am to bird35
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I don’t care about what 2020 trucks are still reliable.
I want to know how the trucks from 2010 are doing.
That's easier to find.
Problem is that I don't know how valuable that information would be. Nothing built in 2010 is still being built without a major design change in 2023. Trucks with issues in 2010 may have been sorted out by now. And new vehicles that were trouble-free back then may have a more complex/problematic design today.
Other than the 4Runner, the full sized GM vans, and the Nissan pickups.....what else out there has gone that long without a major redesign?
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:27 am to El Segundo Guy
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Ram puts leaf springs in their 3/4 ton diesels.
All of the 3/4 ton trucks use leave springs out back as standard. You mean air springs? Ram does have that available as an option, but you don't have to buy them.
You can dial in additional firmness with the air springs and level the truck if you have a heavy trailer, then dial it back and have a smoother ride when not towing. But the air springs generally last 100,000-130,000 miles under the best of circumstances regardless of manufacturer. It provides value, but it also costs more to maintain than the standard leaf springs.
General Motors has been adding air springs as an option to their medium duty trucks that are upfitted for ambulance or fire truck duty. It's a very good option to have for those purposes.
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I use diesel trucks for hauling heavy trailers, not commuting to work. I wouldn't buy anything but a Duramax right now.
The Duramax is a great motor and General Motors has somehow figured out how to make it reliable despite all the new regulatory bullshite around emissions hitting the diesel engines so hard. But I would not dismiss the Cummins powered Ram either. If the price is right, that's a very good option too.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:34 am to goofball
both my F150 and Ram have been bulletproof.
the only vehicle i had trouble with was an 08 model tacoma. crapped out at 150k miles
the only vehicle i had trouble with was an 08 model tacoma. crapped out at 150k miles
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:38 am to dewster
I think you misspelled 2V. Our 2002 5.4L had no issues for over 200000 miles. Traded it in in 2017 for un-related issue. Now have a 2013 5.0. 125k miles and pretty happy.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:04 am to member12
Ford and GMC/Chevrolet 3/4 tons use leaf springs. Ram uses coil springs.
If you're towing anything above a moderate load, leaf springs are vastly superior. Coil springs are for a more "sporty" ride. If you're buying a 3/4 ton diesel and prefer a sporty ride over stiffer springs that can handle weight, you probably don't need a 3/4 ton diesel to begin with.
If you're towing anything above a moderate load, leaf springs are vastly superior. Coil springs are for a more "sporty" ride. If you're buying a 3/4 ton diesel and prefer a sporty ride over stiffer springs that can handle weight, you probably don't need a 3/4 ton diesel to begin with.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:39 am to goofball
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Most Reliable Trucks
Chevrolet Colorado Midsize Truck
Toyota Tacoma Midsize Truck
GMC Sierra Full-Size Truck
Toyota Tundra Full-Size Truck
Chevrolet Silverado HD Heavy-Duty Truck
Unfortunately I don't think you'll save much over a new truck by buying a 2020 model Tundra or 2020 Silverado.
Colorado either. I have been in that market for about 3 years and they can kiss my arse my 9 year old GMC 3500 HD is good enough for me at the moment. The canyons and Colorados are nice but they ain't that kind of money nice...
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:43 am to SouthPlains
quote]All but 2 of these are new models in 2023.
You baws keep that in mind when you run out to get that sweet 108 month loan at $983/month on a 2024 Tundra.[/quote]
I may be mistaken but the Colorado/Canyon is going to be a turbo charged 4 cyl in 2024.
You baws keep that in mind when you run out to get that sweet 108 month loan at $983/month on a 2024 Tundra.[/quote]
I may be mistaken but the Colorado/Canyon is going to be a turbo charged 4 cyl in 2024.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:44 am to goofball
I commute to work in a 2000 Tundra. Has 167,000 miles on it. I'll die before this truck does.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:45 am to goofball
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Toyota
Makes sense
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Chevrolet, and GMC
Hmmm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:56 am to goofball
Who ever said a GM truck is reliable must be assuming that 3 transmissions and a full top end on the motor is the mark of quality. GM have sucked since they went to the AFM motors. The early 2000 models couldn't be killed.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:58 am to GREENHEAD22
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The early 2000 models couldn't be killed.
I had a 2002 Silverado with the 5.3. Never had an issue with it for 14 years till a drunk driver side swiped me and ran me into a tree.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:05 pm to kywildcatfanone
My 05 Z71 is one of my 3 trucks and it won't die. It's survived 2 divorces and 5 states of residence.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:46 pm to Adajax
My 15 Tundra has 167,000 and only routine maintenance. I'm hoping to squeeze another 100-150k out of it before I replace it. Some days I feel ready to go buy another truck, then I look at prices and finance options and then I clean up my truck and appreciate it a lot more.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:48 pm to goofball
Surprised Ram didn’t make an appearance
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:50 pm to frequent flyer
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The only thing worse than that Ford V8 is every Powerstroke diesel made since they killed off the old 7.3 Liter engine
Have a 08 F250 with the 6.4 on the farm. It just locked up out of nowhere, plenty of oil in the engine. Was running fine, then poof. No knock, no warning, just quit and locked up tight
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:52 pm to Tigeralum2008
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The GM 5.3L V8 might be the best motor I’ve ever owned. I put 309k miles on an 07 Yukon.
It was solid through 2013 but seemed to take a downturn since.
The 90s era 5.7 vortec however were bulletproof
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:58 pm to PillageUrVillage
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Have a 2017 F150 with the 5.0 V8. Right at 120k miles and not a lick of trouble with that truck
Same here but a 2018. Only issue I've encountered has only happened once and that's the starter "heat soak" after traveling for several hours in pretty hot temps and stopping for gas. It only happened once, tho. It's a known issue on that Coyote V8 5.0 esp when towing in high temps. Other than that, solid truck and engine. I stayed away from the EcoBoost turbos.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 1:51 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
The only negatives with my 2000 Tundra: no power windows or locks, no cruise control, no Bluetooth (obviously). Other than that I love it.
ETA: I have a 2000 Tundra not a 200.
ETA: I have a 2000 Tundra not a 200.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 1:58 pm to member12
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And I would strongly consider the 2.7L turbo V6 motor from them over the others
Thats good to know. I just bought a used 2.7L Turbo V6 2020. Only had 30k miles on it. Clean carfax report. Only reason I could see that it was traded in was because the first purchaser leased it and the lease was up
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