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re: Motor Trend list most reliable used trucks available - Toyota, Chevrolet, and GMC dominate

Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
17007 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:10 pm to
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I've heard the Tacoma was having more issues lately, b


What issues and what year(s)? I have a 2020 Tacoma with 65k miles on it and have done only regular maintenance. Still using my original brakes and tires. I had to replace the battery recently.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30521 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:42 pm to
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How shitty are trucks now that failures are high enough to document within 3 years?


I kinda have to grin at this because anything as complex as vehicles are going to have a statistical PP100 (problems per 100 cars) in the first six months of ownership. For example, a 125 PP100 would be VERY highly ranked, probably #1 pretty much every year. There are quite a few manufacturers that as a whole are over 200 PP100 in initial quality metrics.

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46864 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:53 pm to
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My 15 Tundra has 167,000 and only routine maintenance.


I have a 2015 Tundra. (Not fancy)

I have had an F-100, S-10, F-150, F-250 and the Tundra. It is by far the best engineered of all. Love it.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13246 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:00 pm to
I had a 2020 Tundra. It was overrated junk.
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
788 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:08 pm to
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GM transmission will detonate prematurely


The eight-speeds will, yes, undoubtedly. That is why GM was hit with a class action in federal district court in Michigan related to its 8L45E and 8L90 eight-speed automatic transmissions that were used in the following vehicles: 2015-2019 Cadillac Escalade/Cadillac Escalade ESV; 2016-2019 Cadillac ATS; 2016-2019 Cadillac ATS-V; 2016-2019 Cadillac CTS; 2016-2019 Cadillac CTS-V; 2016-2019 Cadillac CT6; 2015-2019 Chevrolet Silverado; 2017-2019 Chevrolet Colorado; 2015-2019 Chevrolet Corvette; 2016-2019 Chevrolet Camaro; 2017-2019 GMC Canyon; 2015-2019 GMC Sierra; 2015-2019 GMC Yukon/Yukon XL.

TLDR: GM was sued in federal court because of the eight-speed transmissions used in just about every vehicle from 2015-2019.

FWIW: My old man has a 2019 Silverado with the eight-speed. It’s still under warranty and was just at the dealership for a week—all seems peachy keen according to him. The current 10-speeds are just fine, speaking from experience.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13246 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:18 pm to
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I have a 2020 Tacoma with 65k miles on it and have done only regular maintenance. Still using my original brakes and tires. I had to replace the battery recently.


I had a Tundra. All maintenance done by dealership.

A/C broke.
Four batteries died.
Not Toyota issue but problem with one of the stock tires that had to be replaced.
Infotainment system was complete crap and had to be redone.
Started to have "creaking" from the chassis when I traded it in.
Center console fell apart and had to be replaced.

All those issues at 12.5 mpg and 30,000 miles when I had enough.

It never left me stranded though. So I suppose it was "reliable".
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:19 pm to
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My Toyota before that was bulletproof though.

I've had 3 Tacomas, 2 Tundras, and a Land Cruiser. My current Tundra has 213K on it and still feels like a new truck.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:24 pm to
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I have an 04 Tundra with over 310k on it.

First Gen Master Race...

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:28 pm to
Yet every time there’s a truck thread on here or the Outdoor Board, someone is complaining about their Chevy or GMC burning a quart of oil every other week or their 8 speed transmission going out at 30,000 miles.

I’ve got a 2014 F-150 3.5 Ecoboost with 109k miles and have never had an engine or drivetrain problem. Knock on wood. Just a couple of batteries and a few small inexpensive relays and a wiper lever.

This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:12 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:29 pm to
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We quit buying the GMs at work because of reliability. We have the 2nd biggest fleet in North America
All the GM dickriders are gonna call you a liar.
BTW, what were the major problems y’all were having? Transmissions?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:32 pm to
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The Hemi V8 has turned into a good engine. The issues they have are widely known and fairly easy to fix.
What issue is that? The rocker arms?
Posted by SouthPlains
Member since Jul 2023
1121 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:05 pm to
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What issue is that? The rocker arms?


I believe he’s referring to the infamous “Hemi tick” which I think is lifter failure.

And yes, it’s long since been resolved but if you want to by hyper cautious, don’t frequently let it idle for long periods of time.

I loved both vehicles I had with the 5.7/6.4 - the problem is that everything else on them was a huge piece of shite.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:13 pm to
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I believe he’s referring to the infamous “Hemi tick” which I think is lifter failure.

And yes, it’s long since been resolved but if you want to by hyper cautious, don’t frequently let it idle for long periods of time.
Got it. Have a brother that recently bought a 2020 Ram with the Hemi.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20850 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:55 pm to
One class action, try three. The 8 speed, 6 speed, and AFM on the motor. I have only owned GM trucks, never again.
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
788 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:04 pm to
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The 8 speed, 6 speed, and AFM on the motor. I have only owned GM trucks, never again.


Just buy you the SLT, Denali, LTZ, or High Country next go around with the standard 10-speed, baw.

Never had a problem with the AFM on my 2010 Silverado, fortunately.
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