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Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:28 pm to crazyLSUstudent
They will absolutely open it. No question. Last I saw River was going to crest at 44 ft.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:32 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Last I saw River was going to crest at 44 ft.
I'm amazed it didn't go up on the 5 day projection. It actually stayed at 44 two days in a row.
Frick this rain.Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:43 pm to KingRanch
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You're being obtuse.
He's not wrong- basic geometry tells you the river wants to go down the Atchafalaya. You can't change the gradient of the river no matter how many flood control structures you build there. Everything I have read is saying the Atchafalaya's gradient is just getting steeper, while the Miss. River is staying the same. If it changes it's not coming back.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:43 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
The 5 day takes into consideration the next 48 hrs of rain. They will up the crest forecast with the rain coming in. The MS will be opened once it hits the low to mid forties foot range.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:58 pm to SSpaniel
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What's the downside of this? The river changes course and New Orleans no longer has a river?
Assuming we're being serious, the downside is that Morgan City and any interests along the Atchafalaya River would likely be wiped out. At some point in the future Morgan City would have the potential to become a shipping hub much like New Orleans.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:07 am to Martini
Other areas are not maintained by the Orleans Levee Board, though.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:52 am to slackster
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What's the downside of this? The river changes course and New Orleans no longer has a river?
If the river switches the flows in the Atchafalaya and Mississippi will be reversed. Currently 70% goes down to NOLA and 30% to Morgan City. If those were reversed Morgan City would be wiped out and the river in NOLA would not have the depth to support ocean going vessels. Its kind of a dooms day situation for the state of Louisiana and the entire country.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:58 am to slackster
quote:whatever city is rebuilt there anyway
Morgan City
Posted on 12/30/15 at 7:24 am to NYNolaguy1
Mississippi River aint going nowhere.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 8:13 am to slackster
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At some point in the future Morgan City would have the potential to become a shipping hub much like New Orleans.
It would actually be a much better spot for a port since the port of New Orleans is many miles up the river. Bad thing is that all the infrastructure from the past century would be in the wrong spot with not enough water to accommodate large ships plus saltwater will work its way towards Nola/BR causing other problems.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 8:21 am to crazyLSUstudent
This is what's happening currently around St. Louis:
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They're expecting the river level to be surpassed only by the 1993 flood.
The only reason the 1993 flood wasn't that bad further downstream (Louisiana) was that the Ohio was way BELOW normal. But with heavy rainfall in the TVA areas, the Ohio is normal if not above.
With all this, I would expect Morganza to be opened. But I agree at some point that ORCS isn't going to stop the eventual re-routing of the Mississippi.
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They're expecting the river level to be surpassed only by the 1993 flood.
The only reason the 1993 flood wasn't that bad further downstream (Louisiana) was that the Ohio was way BELOW normal. But with heavy rainfall in the TVA areas, the Ohio is normal if not above.
With all this, I would expect Morganza to be opened. But I agree at some point that ORCS isn't going to stop the eventual re-routing of the Mississippi.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/30/15 at 8:36 am to Martini
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You woefully overestimate the United States Army Corp of Engineers.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 8:42 am to jeffsdad
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Mississippi River aint going nowhere.
That's true. The physical boundaries of the river won't change dramatically, just the flows-and eventually that will cause big problems for New Orleans if it's still around when it happens. Thats assuming it hasn't been wiped off the map from either soil erosion or another hurricane when ORCS fails.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/30/15 at 9:14 am to jeffsdad
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Jeffs dad might want to do a little reading.
I don't doubt the intelligence and ingenuity of American engineers, and so far they have been able to harness and control the river, but to think it is not possible for the structure to fail, of which it has come precipitously close twice, is just being naive. And to think the Corp would drop "20,000 barges" to save it is silly.
I live in Baton Rouge and certainly don't want it to happen but levees, dams, bridges fail from time to time. Engineers fail and catastrophic things can and do happen. We have seen levee failures all up and down the river and all are man made. I don't underestimate mans "will and intellect" however I don't underestimate Mother Nature either. And anyone who went through Katrina or Rita or lives in Garland, Texas would probably agree with me.
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Jeffs dad might want to do a little reading.
I don't doubt the intelligence and ingenuity of American engineers, and so far they have been able to harness and control the river, but to think it is not possible for the structure to fail, of which it has come precipitously close twice, is just being naive. And to think the Corp would drop "20,000 barges" to save it is silly.
I live in Baton Rouge and certainly don't want it to happen but levees, dams, bridges fail from time to time. Engineers fail and catastrophic things can and do happen. We have seen levee failures all up and down the river and all are man made. I don't underestimate mans "will and intellect" however I don't underestimate Mother Nature either. And anyone who went through Katrina or Rita or lives in Garland, Texas would probably agree with me.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:25 am to Martini
If the river was ever re-directed and no longer had a significant flow through NOLA then almost all homes around these river levees would sink tremendously.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:47 am to jlu03
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If the river was ever re-directed and no longer had a significant flow through NOLA then almost all homes around these river levees would sink tremendously.
Wait, what?
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:48 am to saltybulldog
Imagine it is a water table issue
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:50 am to fightin tigers
Yes. The river elevates the water table
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:53 am to bayoudude
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Bad thing is that all the infrastructure from the past century would be in the wrong spot with not enough water to accommodate large ships plus saltwater will work its way towards Nola/BR causing other problems.
Not to mention the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of plants that would no longer have access to ocean going vessels.
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