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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 6/2/19 at 11:41 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 6/2/19 at 11:41 am to fightin tigers
Or you could say less water is needed to reach higher on the water height gauge, possibly because the channel is filling in and sediment is sitting at the bottom, displacing the water.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:12 pm to FutureMikeVIII
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Is this supposed to make sense?
I meant that measured discharge is below predicted (calculated) discharge.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:21 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Taken from the Fly this morning. The river was about 2 feet from the embankment, I’ve never seen it this high.


Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:23 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
As explained on the last page, calculated is not synonymous with predicted.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:52 pm to FutureMikeVIII
Call me a nut or a loon, but could all the breaks in levees and New distributaries in Plaquemines Parish on the east side like Mardi Gras Pass slowing the flow of the river and causing sedimentation up the river.
I looked at the river levels near Venice and it doesn’t seem high which the gauge is at 3.6 feet this morning and it is still being impacted by the tides.
My point is that by allowing the river to flow unchecked in near Venice. The river is flowing slower causing sediment to fall at bottom creating a shallower channel upriver.
By the way has anyone taken recent photos of these areas. I wish Google Earth had more updated photography of all area. You would probably see nothing but water near Fort St. Philip.
I looked at the river levels near Venice and it doesn’t seem high which the gauge is at 3.6 feet this morning and it is still being impacted by the tides.
My point is that by allowing the river to flow unchecked in near Venice. The river is flowing slower causing sediment to fall at bottom creating a shallower channel upriver.
By the way has anyone taken recent photos of these areas. I wish Google Earth had more updated photography of all area. You would probably see nothing but water near Fort St. Philip.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:10 pm to Bullfrog
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Or you could say less water is needed to reach higher on the water height gauge, possibly because the channel is filling in and sediment is sitting at the bottom, displacing the water.
With water so high for so long, could the silting process have been aggravated and the silting process sped up?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:27 pm to Tarps99
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could all the breaks in levees and New distributaries in Plaquemines Parish on the east side like Mardi Gras Pass
My guess is that while that might lower the local water levels, it would actually serve to increase the slope of the water level, increasing flow. Still, that would be very localized.
As I understand it, a good bit of the sedimentation issues are related to the river responding to the man made meander cutoff program performed in the 30s & 40s.
Operation of the Morganza and Bonnie Carre also might cause acute sedimentation problems since they remove flow and therefore lower the sediment carrying capacity of the river. And since they mostly remove water from the upper portion of the water column, they don’t take a proportional amount of sediment with the flow. So it would tend to deposit near those structures...I think.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 3:21 pm to FutureMikeVIII
So, in other words, it is time to fire up that multi million dollar model at the water institute to test some theories out.
Also, it would be nice to do some new depth soundings to get a clearer picture of flow estimates to see if they are still accurate.
By the way, just crossed the Luling Bridge and the river current was very strong.
Also, it would be nice to do some new depth soundings to get a clearer picture of flow estimates to see if they are still accurate.
By the way, just crossed the Luling Bridge and the river current was very strong.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 3:27 pm to Tarps99
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By the way, just crossed the Luling Bridge and the river current was very strong
Master of the Obvious
Posted on 6/2/19 at 4:57 pm to sosaysmorvant
Just driving by here... is there going to be a catastrophe, and if so, who is fricked? Obv haven’t been following this.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 5:05 pm to baybeefeetz
Despite lots of wish casting, not much is going to happen
Posted on 6/2/19 at 6:20 pm to notiger1997
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Despite lots of wish casting, not much is going to happen
Oh man, thanks I was worried. Just let the corps know so they all can go home.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 6/2/19 at 6:30 pm to NYNolaguy1
Wrong. It’s because of the great job they have done we won’t have major issues in Louisiana
Posted on 6/2/19 at 6:33 pm to NYNolaguy1
He is right though, unless this storm comes and just sits on us and drops tons of water this is a nothing event. Eventually the river change will happen but there isnt near enough water currently. And with all the refortifying that has been done at ORCS it will mostly be at a failure in the levee. A crevasse due to a sand boil, not the control structure failing.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:02 pm to GREENHEAD22
Everybody worries about the structure itself at old river, but nobody talks about the big bend just upstream. I don’t think this is the event to get really worried about but each one of these does add more silt and less water rises higher the next time it floods.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:33 pm to GREENHEAD22
It is very simple. The river has been building up its bed for hundreds of years. Dredging negates that in the lower Mississippi river. Dredging isn't needed for tugs and barges up stream of Baton Rouge, therefore it isn't done up stream.
Eventually if nothing is done the Morganza spill will be to be opened for minor river events that aren't even news worthy.
So this means that one of two things must happen. Either the gov't will dredge from BR to above morganza or the river will change its route.
The only stop gap measure would be to change the law so that a larger portion of the flow should go down the Atchafalaya, even if only during times of high water.
But that will only delay the inevitable.
Eventually if nothing is done the Morganza spill will be to be opened for minor river events that aren't even news worthy.
So this means that one of two things must happen. Either the gov't will dredge from BR to above morganza or the river will change its route.
The only stop gap measure would be to change the law so that a larger portion of the flow should go down the Atchafalaya, even if only during times of high water.
But that will only delay the inevitable.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 8:22 pm to sosaysmorvant
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Master of the Obvious
He’s also a pretty good fisherman. A master baiter, if you will.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:58 pm to TDsngumbo
Belle River is falling fast AF, finally. Down to its lowest level since 5/11
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:02 pm to omegaman66
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The only stop gap measure would be to change the law so that a larger portion of the flow should go down the Atchafalaya, even if only during times of high water.
What law would this be?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:15 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Flood control act of 1954
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