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re: More than a third of white students lie about their race on college applications….

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Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:38 pm to
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Both parties created this mess.

Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:42 pm to
I wish I had a nickel for every woman I have met that claimed she’s part NA.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:46 pm to
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I wish I had. Nicole for every woman I have met that claimed she’s part NA.


It's funny because just about every person I know says this too. Thankfully my Aunt has done some thorough genealogy research, pulling actual records so I trust her. I've seen some of her work on my dad's side which is very heavily weighted German. I'm glad to have her because I would never consider using that....till now.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:46 pm to
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If white people are so privileged, why would they want to claim any other race but white? Hmmm


In '99 my military boss found out my Grandma was Cherokee...dude TOLD me:

"One day soon promotion will be based on balancing the spreadsheet to mirror the population, you need to claim it."

He was a black guy.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:47 pm to
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More than a third of white students lie about their race on college applications


Good
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18778 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:52 pm to
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beyond sad.



Yes, you are incredibly sad. Pathetic even.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Someone in HR at UAB (off the record) straight up told me I wouldn’t get the job because I wasn’t the diversity they were looking for, even though I was more than qualified.


Well, I guess you just got a little taste of how it feels.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:56 pm to
So long as American citizens continue to blame the "other party" for our problems instead of the entire government, we will continue to decline. They have us right where they want us.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:59 pm to
Jim Crow says, what?! Honestly, if this country could have dealt with aftermath of Civil War and 19th Amendment without doubling down on segregation, this country might be stronger and not be currently eating itself from the inside.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11969 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:05 pm to
The fact that there’s even a section that asks you your race is stupid to begin with. I’ve always thought that shite was dumb since I was a kid filling them out in grade school. If we’re as equal opportunity as we say we are, then why ask?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:07 pm to
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So long as American citizens continue to blame the "other party" for our problems instead of the entire government, we will continue to decline.


In many cases you are right. This is not one of those cases.

This equity and diversity bullshite is 100% purely progressive ideology.

Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Isn’t it? I personally would never want to question if I were a diversity hire. Talk about a horrible mindset to be put into. Questioning whether or not you deserve to be somewhere because of your merit or simply because of your skin color


I won’t even take help from friends when it comes to jobs. I have too much pride. I would feel like a pos knowing I got a job because of some arbitrary reason
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17076 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:15 pm to
I see many in this thread agree. But I don't think race should even be apart of a college application.

Set your qualifications as a university. And you accept students in based off of if they meet those minimum standards that have already been set. Imo, I think this would be a way of raising retention and graduation rates on college campuses as well. By lowering standards, you're letting in a bunch of kids who are in way over their head coming into college.

I fully believe black students and other minority students are capable of rising to the occasion across the board and being accepted to the most prestigious institutions, but in order to do so you have to quit lowering the standards.

I know Biden would literally never do it. But I think this would be a great stance for a future presidential candidate to run on. Outlawing the use of considering race on college campuses. Make it a law that no publicly funded university can place anywhere on the application. If colleges want to track their race numbers, then they can just do a census of the students who are already enrolled and registered.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:15 pm to
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I think you've figured out how we fight back and I'm not joking. I'm 1/32 Native American and will start listing it, and I never have before


Is there a way to find out without giving out your dna. I don’t want to do that. frick it, I will just lie
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25808 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Is there a way to find out without giving out your dna. I don’t want to do that


Start researching your genealogy. Start interviewing your aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. then start gathering old clerk of court files, marriage certificates, military records, etc.

You'll start going down rabbit holes like crazy but it's fun. I helped my aunt a little, years ago.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:19 pm to
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I fully believe black students and other minority students are capable of rising to the occasion across the board and being accepted to the most prestigious institutions, but in order to do so you have to quit lowering the standards



They have done this with black kids at Ivy League schools and they failed out in very large numbers
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24329 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:24 pm to
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C on Z is the most successful troll in the history of this site

He’s trolling but he also believes much of what he says
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3380 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:51 pm to
I don't see a problem with identifying as whatever race you want.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:58 pm to
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I wish I had a nickel for every woman I have met that claimed she’s part NA


Strangely, many are a small part.

In the trail of tears debacle, a bunch of whiteys let natives settle along the way (against fed mandate), many married into the populations of rednecks.

So most North Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi folks have some in their past.
The rest of the regions tribes just stayed put and slowly intermingled.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17269 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:01 pm to
As a black man, I don't blame y'all. My twin boys are in the process of applying for colleges and I cringe every time they ask for race/ethnicity. My kids worked their asses off taking AP classes and getting their GPAs in the 4.5 range. They took the ACT/SAT and did very well.

I want them to know they are going to Ga Tech and UGA on scholarship because of the work they put in, not because of their minority status.
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