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re: More than 12 million vaccine doses sent to states
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:03 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:03 am to GetCocky11
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Yep. Millions of people would be happy to get their shots today if they were allowed.
I’d be on my way right now
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:03 am to Bruco
Once there is a vaccine (Oxford/Johnson and Johnson)that doesn’t need to be stored at such extreme temperatures that’s what you will see.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:06 am to SloaneRanger
They are making the mistake of prioritizing people, and administering to only the high priority people. What they should be doing is queuing up anybody who wants it; asking those who have had the virus to abstain; and move priority people to the front of the line. Then start jabbing needles as fast as possible.
What will protect the vulnerable is getting to herd immunity fast!
What will protect the vulnerable is getting to herd immunity fast!
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:08 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:Kind of dumb considering they're the most effected by it due to their higher obesity rates.
Especially common amongst Hispanic and black nurses to opt out.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:09 am to Dizz
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Once there is a vaccine (Oxford/Johnson and Johnson)that doesn’t need to be stored at such extreme temperatures that’s what you will see.
The moderna vaccine is not all that extreme.
And fine, but every hospital in America with ability to store these vaccines should have lines out the door this morning and they don’t.
Politicians get to play god like never before and they won’t pass up that opportunity
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:12 am to SloaneRanger
what’s strange is that my ABC has spent 3 days doing pieces on how the Fed government isn’t getting states and cities the vaccine fast enough. Just more media bullshite I suppose?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:13 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Word on the street is that a significant percentage of health care workers are turning down the shots, causing the slow rollout. Especially common amongst Hispanic and black nurses to opt out.
Which is their right but those doses should be immediately sent to ltc facilities. You could knock out one facility per day with minimal resources.
What ever happened to the military handling this thing? CVS and Walgreens? Both places struggle filling scripts in a reasonable amount of time.
The military has thousands of nurses and doctors. We should be running out of shots every day. This is a failure of leadership.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:14 am to fightin tigers
Yep. I’m surprised this does not happen more
Everyone’s In Such a damn rush and in a hurry that they overwork pharmacy and nursing staffs and they complain to corporate if it takes too long for their shots meanwhile I’ve gotta check prescriptions , take phone calls from doctors and mix up the shots and Patient Consults too . All of which only I can do.
People need to chill the frick out.
Everyone’s In Such a damn rush and in a hurry that they overwork pharmacy and nursing staffs and they complain to corporate if it takes too long for their shots meanwhile I’ve gotta check prescriptions , take phone calls from doctors and mix up the shots and Patient Consults too . All of which only I can do.
People need to chill the frick out.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:17 am to Prominentwon
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Man, those millions of shots should take that long! Geez! Why are they dragging their feet? How can MILLIONS of people not be vaccinated in the time frame that is like?!
Sarcasm? You think this is excusable? They have had MONTHS to plan this. They should be expected to administer the shots almost as fast as they receive them, so figure 10 million doses. For an average state, like Louisiana, that is 200,000 doses.
Given months to prepare I would think Louisiana could have had 20 sites set up with trained personnel such that each site had 5 lines administering doses. That means each site would administer 10,000 doses in about 15 days of December since the doses became available. That’s less than 700 doses per site, and 133 doses per line per day. In a 12 hour day that would be 11 vaccinations per line per hour or one every 5.5 minutes.
This would require Louisiana to have 100 “lines” administering doses. I’d guess between record keeping, managing the queues, managing the supplies, and administering the doses, they would need a dozen people per queue or 1200 people. This is not the Normandy invasion. This is something the Chik-fil-A Louisiana franchise management team could have done!!
Possible? I think it should have been easy.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:18 am to Limitlesstigers
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:19 am to Lawyered
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Everyone’s In Such a damn rush and in a hurry that they overwork pharmacy and nursing staffs and they complain to corporate if it takes too long for their shots meanwhile I’ve gotta check prescriptions , take phone calls from doctors and mix up the shots and Patient Consults too . All of which only I can do.
Which is why you shouldn’t be involved in the process
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:21 am to SloaneRanger
Have Chick-Fil-A give the vaccine. We could go home vaccinated and full, all by lunch.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:23 am to SloaneRanger
only 104 pharmacies in LA are getting the Covid vaccine... St. Amant is one of them
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:24 am to skullhawk
My facilityncurrently has right under 60 residents and I’m not sure how many employees all total.
They could be vaccinated quickly — in fact cvs will start giving them on January 5.
They could be vaccinated quickly — in fact cvs will start giving them on January 5.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:32 am to Lawyered
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Everyone’s In Such a damn rush and in a hurry that they overwork pharmacy and nursing staffs and they complain to corporate if it takes too long for their shots meanwhile I’ve gotta check prescriptions , take phone calls from doctors and mix up the shots and Patient Consults too . All of which only I can do.
Meanwhile the myth of the overworked hospital staff continues. Yes, some groups that work directly with Covid patients are overwhelmed, the rest, not so much.
A very good friend of mine is a pediatric nurse practitioner. She has a ton of empty clinical slots. How is that down time being used? She sits on the internet in her office. She said there has been zero discussion of shifting resources.
Hell I work at a bank, when PPP was launched managers had to “donate” 10-15% of their staff to work full time on PPP loans. When asked how to get their regular work done with less people, we were told to “deal with it” and “figure it out”. We ramped up a staff of 750 people in about 3 days.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:51 am to Dizz
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States don’t have the resources to do it 24/7. It would have to be in conjunction with hospitals who aren’t just going to freely pay out that over time.
States have the resources, they just lack the out-of-the-box reasoning to do it.
States did not appear to vaccinate on 12/24, 12/25, 12/26, 12/27, 1/1, and now 1/2. It is physically possible for the same people giving vaccines on 12/23 to do so on 12/24 and 12/25 (Which were a Thursday and Friday) like they would on a normal week.
If the government insists on having us exist in a "war like" status (rationing resources, in this case rationing movement and which businesses are allowed to function), than it needs to tackle it like it would a "war" In which case, holidays just don't exist until the situation is resolved. And, if you're one of those soles who doesn't like to work on Christmas, well, frick it - you just got called up to active duty. We've asked far more from our fellow citizen's in the past for far less of a payoff.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:03 am to BRIllini07
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States have the resources, they just lack the out-of-the-box reasoning to do it.
Two examples.
-Have states reached out to retired healthcare workers? Why not? My mom is a retired nurse who has given thousands of shots. She’d gladly volunteer to give shots 8 hours a day for a few months. She’d do it for free
-My gf’s nephew is a second year med student. No discussion of training them to give shots. Why not? Seems like being directly involved in a pandemic is a decent learning experience. Those students should be giving shots 12 hours a day.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:05 am to Bruco
Med students do not have 12 hours a day to dedicate to giving shots and they gain basically nothing from the “educational experience”.
You could offer them the opportunity to give back via volunteering a couple hours on weekends.
You could offer them the opportunity to give back via volunteering a couple hours on weekends.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:06 am to Penrod
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They are making the mistake of prioritizing people, and administering to only the high priority people. What they should be doing is queuing up anybody who wants it; asking those who have had the virus to abstain; and move priority people to the front of the line. Then start jabbing needles as fast as possible.
I totally agree. There should be vaccine distribution centers operating 24/7. First come, first serve.
Florida is now doing those 65 and older. Can you imagine how damned long these old farts are going to take to get this done. These are the people who drive slow in the left lane with their turn signals on. At this rate, they will never get to everybody else.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:08 am to Tiguar
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Med students do not have 12 hours a day to dedicate to giving shots and they gain basically nothing from the “educational experience”.
Potentially saving some lives seems valuable to me.
He’s on break at the moment and would delaying classes for a month really be a major sacrifice?
Millions of people have had their lives upended and their livelihoods destroyed but god forbid we ask some others to make a little sacrifice
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 11:11 am
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