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re: More problems at new MSY Terminal - broken pipes
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:23 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:23 pm to tgrbaitn08
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AECOM Hunt
Never heard of them either
Never heard of AECOM? They are massive in the infrastructure world.
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:26 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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How much do you reckon we will lose by having an existing terminal that stopped having pretty much basic maintenance a year ago and a new one that might never actually be able to be occupied?
For the record, I think the current location is great. I also think the best option would have been a complete overhaul of the existing terminal setup at that location. For whatever reason, Mitch thought his plaque would look better across the runway, where there's no interstate access. He was a fricking disaster in every way possible.
I think the new airport should have been built in New Orleans East
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:27 pm to SM6
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Never heard of AECOM? They are massive in the infrastructure world.
not until now....and apparently they suck at what they do..thats probably why I haven't heard of them
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:30 pm to tgrbaitn08
Ehhh, that Highrise can be such a clusterfrick. I've often thought, though, that they should have built out more the Lakefront Airport back in the day, and had that as the main airport for New Orleans.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:35 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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hat Highrise can be such a clusterfrick. I've often thought, though, that they should have built out more the Lakefront Airport back in the day, and had that as the main airport for New Orleans.
I agree about the highrise but They could have built another bridge or added more roads and whatnot....just like they wound up having to do anyways where they are now......
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:38 pm to tgrbaitn08
Vancouver.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:39 pm to Emteein
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you mean right in the swamp, that whole area off loyola was basically swamp up until 60-70 years ago then they started developing it. Drive down loyola everything is sinking light pole bases that are typically below grade are sticking up above the dirt. all the ground over there is sinking some areas more than others. Only somewhat and I stress somewhat stable ground around there is the area of land from airline south to the river.
+1
All of those houses in Kenner have foundation problems like no other.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:40 pm to Fun Bunch
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Pretty much said its a disaster and is already sinking, the contractors and everyone fricked up, bad. Honestly I think we desperately need a new airport and am looking forward to it, but goddamn this city and state can't do anything right.
Yall have no idea the amount of disorganization and cronyism that goes on at that job site. I've sat in meetings where the subcontractors get so frustrated with the construction managers that verbal fights break out "I wouldn't trust you assholes to build a fricking dog house with the instructions. So I certainly don't trust you to tell me how to do my job."
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:42 pm to tgrbaitn08
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not until now....and apparently they suck at what they do..thats probably why I haven't heard of them
I don't know the exact details of their teaming agreement, but I suspect someone at AECOM dropped the ball as well.
That said, one of the benefits of using local subs is that institutional knowledge that they bring. For example, AECOM completes the drawing packages and sends them to Boh and team. Boh's construction manager overseeing the project looks at them and thinks "where the hell are the pilings, ground remediation, etc." and then calls up the AECOM folks to tell them to get their shite together.
Unfortunately no one on the project thought that the ground might be an issue. Not the Indiana based engineers, nor all of the New Orleans locals littering the project.
This is only one instance, but I find it harder and harder to defend this city and state to people who haven't lived in it. People don't naturally assume (or even comprehend) this level of incompetence and backwardness.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
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.. but Mitch didn't personally design the terminal or construct it.
He probably had a big hand in hiring inept contractors for the reasons of race, gender and political contributions. A billion dollar project is a lot of money to ignore.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
Mitch Landrieu is one of the biggest pieces of shite I've ever seen in Louisiana politics.
I really hope he burns in hell one day.
I really hope he burns in hell one day.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:09 pm to Sentrius
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Mitch Landrieu is one of the biggest pieces of shite I've ever seen in Louisiana politics.
I really hope he burns in hell one day.
This city has been on a downward trend since the first Landrieu took office.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:25 pm to tgrbaitn08
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not until now....and apparently they suck at what they do..thats probably why I haven't heard of them
They didn't become a massive company with global reach by "sucking at what they do"
As much as I hate to admit it... most of the blame probably belongs to the locals. I'd be curious to know how they feel having gotten into bed with Boh and Gibbs.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:30 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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He probably had a big hand in hiring inept contractors for the reasons of race, gender and political contributions. A billion dollar project is a lot of money to ignore.
The decision to award the contract was based on a point system. The group that got the most points won the contract. Now, this is different from Jefferson Parish, where they have scoring systems, and the council routinely awards the contract to the lowest-scoring company, because that company is who the councilman in that district wants to hire.
Now, does Mitch lean on some of the subs? Maybe.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:31 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Are you telling me nobody in Dallas or Houston has missed a flight due to traffic?
Do you think there are more routes available when traveling over land only, as opposed to traveling over major waterways?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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How much do you reckon we will lose by having an existing terminal that stopped having pretty much basic maintenance a year ago and a new one that might never actually be able to be occupied?
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How much do you reckon we will lose by having an existing terminal that stopped having pretty much basic maintenance a year ago and a new one that might never actually be able to be occupied?
It stopped having basic maintenance 5 years ago... and the new one will be eventually occupied. Yes, this hurts, but it's not like this was planned to turn out this way.
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For the record, I think the current location is great. I also think the best option would have been a complete overhaul of the existing terminal setup at that location.
You would have basically had to knock down and rebuild in place. It would have looked felt and operated 100 percent different. All the while, continuing major airport operations.
You think this current project is taking forever? It would take 10 years, at least to do a complete rebuild in place. A big part of this is centralized security and having more assets behind security.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:35 pm to LSUFanHouston
fricking Mitch...
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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Honestly I think we desperately need a new airport and am looking forward to it
I have never minded the old terminal. Easy to get in and out and the rental car facility is walkable (no damn busses). I guess for locals its more of a pain in the arse?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:48 pm to LSUFanHouston
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A big part of this is centralized security and having more assets behind security.
I know this has been the biggest rationale for this new Billion Dollar+ terminal, but it seems like a lot more airports in this country have been retrofitted and upgraded to this, with minimal issues (or at least a lot less than it appears we are facing at this point).
Posted on 7/31/19 at 2:51 pm to LSUFanHouston
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They didn't become a massive company with global reach by "sucking at what they do"
You do if you're good at sucking
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Gibbs.
Im really surprised to see them as a lead on this job.
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