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re: More positive Louisiana Education news. This time featured on NPR
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:22 am to Chardee MacDennis
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:22 am to Chardee MacDennis
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So basically 34 States fell behind Louisiana in reading comprehension more so than Louisiana actually improved its reading comprehension. Yikes.
No, Louisiana was relatively early in the pushback against the “whole language” model for teaching reading. “Whole language” is arguably the worst thing to happen to education in the last century, so anyone who moves away from it will surge past anyone fool enough to stick with it.
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:23 am to Cuz413
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Good to see they still have Clovis the Crawfish books around
Clovis lays an offshore pipeline, drives a lifted F150 he needs a stepladder to get into and is eight months in arrears on child support.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:25 am to Saunson69
[quote]Best to put a paragraph detail. Link with no description is a bad post.[/quote
Especially with "NPR" in the title.
Especially with "NPR" in the title.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:33 am to Skenes
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While other states have not made a full recovery, Louisiana has and has improved upon that. Why not be proud of some good news on education in Louisiana instead of trying to downplay it.
Any improvement should be met with excitement, even if it is small.
Pull the classes with the best scores, pull the tests manually where every child in the class got the answers right for certain questions, see if there are eraser marks. That was the issue 20 years ago when tests miraculously leapt most states.
Teachers would want to raise the grade, and the easiest way was to take the answers, see that 1 is B, go through all the tests, erase wrong answer. Rinse and repeat for four or five questions and voila.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:37 am to trinidadtiger
3rd grade on up now take test on computers, so you won't be finding the eraser marks anymore.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:38 am to The Torch
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I remember when they were trying to pass the casino bill, EDUCATION & ROADS were the selling points. So where is all the Casino revenue going if not to education and roads ?
Money can’t solve our education problem.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:46 am to Joshjrn
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No, Louisiana was relatively early in the pushback against the “whole language” model for teaching reading. “Whole language” is arguably the worst thing to happen to education in the last century, so anyone who moves away from it will surge past anyone fool enough to stick with it.
I read an issue of Time (when it was actual news) many years ago, with several stories about how education scores had risen in the last year after years of decline (this story was in the late 90s).
Several articles attributing to this improvement, community learning, magnet schools for lower income, all sorts of success "stories".
Then the last article.....the real reason. Asian kids, though a small percentage of the population, scored so astronomically high.....they were moving the curve.
The shame of this. Their children arent moving it, and there should be more of them.......seems like they must have become Americanized like the rest of kids these days.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:08 am to tigerstripedjacket
Celebrate all you want. Hell I'll celebrate with you if you can show me Louisana's 2024 scores rank would put them in the top half of the nation against 2019?
But if not, tell me how it isn't alarming that nationally our education system is going to shite.
But if not, tell me how it isn't alarming that nationally our education system is going to shite.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:35 am to Chardee MacDennis
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Celebrate all you want. Hell I'll celebrate with you if you can show me Louisana's 2024 scores rank would put them in the top half of the nation against 2019? But if not, tell me how it isn't alarming that nationally our education system is going to shite.
Reading scores went to shite because of the Whole Language model. Here’s a link to Louisiana’s NEAP report card: LINK
Does our current score put us in the top half of 2019? Nope. Is it a staggering improvement over where we were in 2019? Yep.
Education is local. Other states being able to look to Louisiana as a model for coming out of the Whole Language wilderness is a very good thing.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:41 am to Chardee MacDennis
Improvement is improvement.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:56 am to Skenes
Ok So Forrest Gump improved his IQ from 85 to 90, but his classmates fell from 115 to 85. Congrats on being valedictorian though.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:07 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I read this at first as “ Alabama has done the same in meth”
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:33 am to Chardee MacDennis
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Ok So Forrest Gump improved his IQ from 85 to 90, but his classmates fell from 115 to 85. Congrats on being valedictorian though.
You clearly just want to be negative. Louisiana went up 6 percentage points while the rest of the nation went down 4 percentage points. To keep with your silly IQ analogy, it would be closer to Louisiana going from 80 to 95 while the rest of the country went from 100 to 90.
Louisiana, relatively speaking, has a staggeringly high poverty rate, which significantly correlates with lower reading scores, all else equal. Louisiana has started doing reading education right. The rest of the country should take notice.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 10:49 am
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:52 am to Skenes
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While other states have not made a full recovery, Louisiana has and has improved upon that. Why not be proud of some good news on education in Louisiana instead of trying to downplay it.
It seems highly unlikely that this is legitimate.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:10 am to Joshjrn
The Louisiana educational precedent is on great display in this thread. Hopefully those educated today can do better.
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